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#1 Datah

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:13 AM

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I've played feral forever, and to rank 1 multiple times in the last three seasons, as a lot of people know.

Instant clones are not the only dumb thing in this game, nor are they the dumbest thing in the game today. They are, however, a terrible mechanic that makes the game worse.

It is very likely that, everything else constant, ferals would not be competitive without instant clones in the current environment. But, you know what? The current environment is incredibly dumb, and approaching the point where it's almost impossible to tell what team plays better in some matches because they're determined by ridiculous mechanics or straight offensive zergs, and a lot of them are just extraordinary binary (either you just win if you play decently at all, or you just lose if the other team plays decently at all), especially for certain classes.

Mages 100-20%ing people in shatters, 60k Mind Blasts, instant control, offensive cooldown zergs being the go-to strategy for tons of teams (including every priest/mage team - something that has certainly never been the case before), 100-0s in smoke bombs, 80k dances, unheeded warning procs, the human racial in general, crit RNG determining match outcomes (why does resil not reduce crit damage anymore? 200% healing crits make healing RNG ridiculous too, but 200% damage crits vs. 133% in previous seasons [at the resil cap] mean that kills are literally determined completely by whether you crit or not nearly always), and so on make things nearly unplayable and largely pointless right now in a lot of situations.

Ferals contribute to this too, both with extremely high damage (Why was FB buffed? Why are FB's mechanics still such that it has to do ridiculous damage or else it's worthless? Why are trinkets like Unheeded Warning in the game?) and instant undispellable control.

Ferals are not at all the most broken things in the game right now, but SOMEBODY has to start sacrificing things for the game to get any better. So this is an attempt at that. I've played feral since BC, when it was one of the worst specs in the game, and I'd play the spec that it was back then over what it (and the game in general) is now any day.

So, please remove PS cyclones from the game, or significantly change the mechanic involved, for the good of the game. Then, please get on to actually trying to fix the rest of it.

Edited by Datah, 20 July 2011 - 03:17 AM.

feral always

#2 Kelberot

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:16 AM

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#3 ehkz

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:16 AM

I like you, instant CC is the stupidest thing in the game. I miss S1-4

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:16 AM

fuck yeah

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:17 AM

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:19 AM

I played against you last night and I could tell that you're a better feral than others.

I just wish that cyclone could be bubbled out of :(

Edited by robberbaronlol, 20 July 2011 - 03:21 AM.


#7 mackazar

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:37 AM

sounds like some1 got raped by a feral team!

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:39 AM

nah, you just suck if you don't dispel the proc or ground it, no good player will ever get PS Cloned

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:40 AM

I really don't think they care enough about arenas anymore for us to see a TBC level of quality anymore.  

More than likely they'll just continue to swing the pendulum back and forth throughout seasons, trading one stupidly broken mechanic for another.  

I agree with you though :)  I just think it will be more of a scapegoating for ferals, than a sacrifice ;)
wtb D3

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:41 AM

finally a feral that isn't in denial

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:42 AM

View PostGekz, on 20 July 2011 - 03:41 AM, said:

finally a feral that isn't in denial

If you think ferals are a problem right now you havent played MLS or shadowplay

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:43 AM

Right on the money, well spoken.

View PostAetarius, on 05 August 2011 - 05:42 PM, said:

Shadowplay is the most balanced comp in the game. It takes immense co-ordination and a special breed of players to be successful

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:46 AM

I'd still rather see damage and healing crits go down first before we see major changes to mechanics, but I certainly agree with everything Datah said.

Edit: does anybody else remember looking forward to Cata and thinking the larger heal pools would result in slower, strategy-driven games with less quick gibs? It's not just the offensive power too: fast top ups mean all damagers think less about playing defensively and resetting and instead can grab a top up and a shield as they run carelessly los from their healer.

Edited by Erch, 20 July 2011 - 03:52 AM.

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:49 AM

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:59 AM

View Postmackazar, on 20 July 2011 - 03:42 AM, said:

If you think ferals are a problem right now you havent played MLS or shadowplay

an OP comp =/= an op spec :<

#16 Aggresionx

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 04:05 AM

spriests make me sad : (

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I will have absolutely no problem getting gladiator in 3V3. I just want a gladiator-like title in 2V2 so the bracket is more active and competitive.

#17 acushi

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 04:17 AM

View PostAggresionx, on 20 July 2011 - 04:05 AM, said:

spriests make me sad : (


Shadow  :priest: and  :warlock: make me sad.

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 04:18 AM

i totally agree that instant cc has to go, but if ferals were to lose instant cyclone without a major overhaul of game mechanics it would result in what u said:

View PostDatah, on 20 July 2011 - 03:13 AM, said:

It is very likely that, everything else constant, ferals would not be competitive without instant clones

without a major content patch or expansion even i think taking instant clone would leave ferals incredibly crippled, unless we could cast clone while moving in cat and bear form

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 04:20 AM

datah for prez

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 04:22 AM

predator swiftness is really necessary gais
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