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#21 Klonken

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 02:29 PM

because you'll have less than hit cap if you swap to 130 agi which, for me, is most of the time

http://chardev.org/?profile=157852 <-- there u go a 130 agi one if u want 5,00% hit aswell then :P
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#22 Ponen

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 03:37 PM

argh, once again bis trinkets from PvE. Not going to have as big impact as in wotlk tho, atleast our only pvp trinkets arent medallion and battlemasters now.
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Posted 19 July 2011 - 04:47 PM

Hunter's should be solid towards the end of the season. Hopefully we have more options then than we do now. I'll be gearing my Hunter casually as I focus on Feral and Mage, classes that currently make an impact during games :)
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#24 Spacerlol

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Posted 20 July 2011 - 01:47 PM

So do you over hit cap? since the weapon chain gives 40 hit, so when u swap to agil ur still capped.
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Posted 20 July 2011 - 03:08 PM

I remember an old thread here on AJ for JC'ers.

It was about getting a specialist gem and cutting spen on it, and gemming another way around. It in the end made for a +20 agility boost while being SPen capped.

Anyone remember that thread?

Don't agree with the Stam / Agi leg enchant.

Also as a human you may also want to consider the Firelands daily trinket. Its use gives 1700 crit for 20 seconds and can be used with the use Agi trinket.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 12:21 PM

I remember an old thread here on AJ for JC'ers.

It was about getting a specialist gem and cutting spen on it, and gemming another way around. It in the end made for a +20 agility boost while being SPen capped.

Anyone remember that thread?

Don't agree with the Stam / Agi leg enchant.

Also as a human you may also want to consider the Firelands daily trinket. Its use gives 1700 crit for 20 seconds and can be used with the use Agi trinket.



Disection and I did some math and it turns out to be this if you argue over the two leg chants.

74 ap 0.12% crit vs 1.74k hp

Dragon scale giving the 74 more ap and .12% crit vs getting 1.74k More Hp (Keep in mind we factor in MotW + TSA)

That AP and crit is made up with one agility gem. Where as to get that stamina you would need 2 1/2 stamina gems.

Basically it comes down to personal preference. Do you like a bigger effective health pool or do you like having 74 more ap and .12% more crit.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 04:46 PM

As a Hunter it's really almost equal. Crit far outweighs everything but Hit, so Dwarf, Troll and Worgen are all better, in my opinion. Honestly I think Worgen/Troll are the best Hunter races but the looks aren't to my liking. Plus I don't know if there are any awesome PvE trinkets this tier, so who knows.

withe the amount of resil with the new gear u can give up a resil trinket for a static agi or crit on and get more than 1 percent human is probly better.
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 05:33 PM

Disection and I did some math and it turns out to be this if you argue over the two leg chants.

74 ap 0.12% crit vs 1.74k hp

Dragon scale giving the 74 more ap and .12% crit vs getting 1.74k More Hp (Keep in mind we factor in MotW + TSA)

That AP and crit is made up with one agility gem. Where as to get that stamina you would need 2 1/2 stamina gems.

Basically it comes down to personal preference. Do you like a bigger effective health pool or do you like having 74 more ap and .12% more crit.


yeah you better listen to disection he is best huntard in world
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Posted 21 July 2011 - 07:58 PM

yeah you better listen to disection he is best huntard in world



This isn't a matter of opinion. It was raw data we factored. Don't care what you think about his personal views, the matter at hand was what would you gain and lose using certain leg chants and we put it out for you. YW

Edited by Pouncedd, 21 July 2011 - 07:59 PM.

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Posted 21 July 2011 - 09:06 PM

disection best hunter world #1 #1 #1


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Posted 21 July 2011 - 10:59 PM

I'm a DPS class. I'll take the DPS leg enchant.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:03 AM

disection best hunter world #1 #1 #1

haha ;) least you got it
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:31 AM

disection best hunter world #1 #1 #1


ofc #1 hunter, JK awful.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:41 AM

i have far more crit than you already, so it shows how highly i value crit. But i dont value 1% crit over 23% stun reduction (meta + racial) and blood fury. Plus the pet dmg and axe expertise (lesser chance on wing clip dodge) are just nice little touches. But why orc is best is bloodfury and stun.

Reading comprehension and common sense, use it.

I don't notice a difference between now and when my pet had unlimited Focus, so pet damage is nonfactor.

If you don't have the 3% Crit Damage meta, you're wrong and there is absolutely no way you have more crit than me in PvP gear without a PvP trinket.

Crit is the best stat after Hit, so 1% from a Racial outweighs something gimmicky, like Stun Reduction. Moreover, the fact that you're even bringing up Axe Expertise shows that you are clueless on itemization and if you're still using Wing Clip, you're obviously not very good at the game.

AP<Crit
Pet Damage doesn't matter
Expertise, lol?

Alright.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:57 AM

ofc #1 hunter, JK awful.

Getting new sick ass name for my hunter like Disection, Contraception inc.

lol
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:07 AM

Disection and I did some math and it turns out to be this if you argue over the two leg chants.

74 ap 0.12% crit vs 1.74k hp

Dragon scale giving the 74 more ap and .12% crit vs getting 1.74k More Hp (Keep in mind we factor in MotW + TSA)

That AP and crit is made up with one agility gem. Where as to get that stamina you would need 2 1/2 stamina gems.

Basically it comes down to personal preference. Do you like a bigger effective health pool or do you like having 74 more ap and .12% more crit.


Why are you still allowed to post here ? /sigh
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#37 Klonken

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:51 AM

I don't notice a difference between now and when my pet had unlimited Focus, so pet damage is nonfactor.

If you don't have the 3% Crit Damage meta, you're wrong and there is absolutely no way you have more crit than me in PvP gear without a PvP trinket.

Crit is the best stat after Hit, so 1% from a Racial outweighs something gimmicky, like Stun Reduction. Moreover, the fact that you're even bringing up Axe Expertise shows that you are clueless on itemization and if you're still using Wing Clip, you're obviously not very good at the game.

AP<Crit
Pet Damage doesn't matter
Expertise, lol?

Alright.


doesnt the 5% pet dmg scale with kill command aswell? imo that makes it rly good .. altho i'd pick trolls berserking over bloodfury anytime, its AMAZING and the 1% crit is also a RLY good thing from trolls, also 5% extra dmg on ferals?=) (aka beasts) i dunno troll as mm probably orc as bm tho .. thats what i'd pick .. too sad i dont rly care about racials .. ud ftw!=)
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 02:50 PM

I don't notice a difference between now and when my pet had unlimited Focus, so pet damage is nonfactor.


Every bit of extra dmg counts. Plus if you go bm and raid its a obvious bonus.

If you don't have the 3% Crit Damage meta, you're wrong and there is absolutely no way you have more crit than me in PvP gear without a PvP trinket.


Disagree, id only use stun reduction for orc, and its quite good. Warrior stuns, deep freeze, kidneys etc, are off you in no time and it makes a huge difference defensively. Makes a huge difference when fighting any team with a stun (pretty much EVERY team has a stun).

Crit is the best stat after Hit



I agree, which is why i have more crit than you.

so 1% from a Racial outweighs something gimmicky, like Stun Reduction.


And stun reduction is "gimmicky"? it wins games moron. Its a reason why orc has ALWAYS been the #1 pvp race for a hunter....get a clue.

Moreover, the fact that you're even bringing up Axe Expertise shows that you are clueless on itemization and if you're still using Wing Clip, you're obviously not very good at the game.


Errrr no, i suppose your wing clip is unbound then? if you dont use it on a melee when THEY ARE ON YOU, then wtf are you using? With concus shot and chimera snare there isnt as much use of wing clip as there used to be, but to say that you dont ever wing clip is just showing how horrible and one dimensional you are, and clearly need more experience than your 1 season on hunter mr.vindication



AP<Crit
Pet Damage doesn't matter
Expertise, lol?


Blood fury (ie, burst you use when you use rapid fire and pop trinkets) > 1% passive crit,
stun reduction > other passive racial abilities
Pet dmg and expertise are small, but every little bit helps

Im a retard, Alright.


Yes, yes you are.
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#39 Klonken

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 03:12 PM

Blood fury (ie, burst you use when you use rapid fire and pop trinkets) > 1% passive crit,


dunno why ppl start comparing blood fury to 1% passive crit?:S

compare it to berserking instead?

altho as mm i'd rather take 20% haste over like 1k attack power :P thats just me maybe..
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 05:48 PM

Why are you still allowed to post here ? /sigh



People ask why would you run one leg armor over another. I state the math behind it.


Still allowed to post here cuss I post valuable info like above.
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