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#1 Numbtoes

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 06:40 PM

Anyone else feel ferocious bite is hitting cloth and leather way to hard? I have been hitting mages and resto druids for 33k fb's with tigers fury up and like 36k with TF and synapsis springs.

I would rather have it nerfed a little before the patch hits so we dont get something unique to our class taken away or something.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 06:44 PM

ferals need massive nerfs already

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 06:50 PM

View PostNumbtoes, on 30 June 2011 - 06:40 PM, said:

Anyone else feel ferocious bite is hitting cloth and leather way to hard? I have been hitting mages and resto druids for 33k fb's with tigers fury up and like 36k with TF and synapsis springs.

I would rather have it nerfed a little before the patch hits so we dont get something unique to our class taken away or something.

Hot fix from blizzard.
Ferals are now cat-form only.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 06:51 PM

Yesterday i hitted 85 on my feral , and with lvling gear i critted resto druid with 3300 resil for 21k.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 06:54 PM

View PostXelithras, on 30 June 2011 - 06:44 PM, said:

ferals need massive nerfs already
I wouldnt say massive nerfs, but the way we scale with weapons now makes unheeded freaking godly and our shred and ravages hit like a truck. Ferocious bite just does too much dmg against cloth and leather which is why it shouldnt have been buffed at all. Besides unheed and FB I think ferals are fine.
They are no where near where dk's were last patch.

Edited by Numbtoes, 30 June 2011 - 06:55 PM.


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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:05 PM

ferals are fine l2p, worse are the rogues critting 20k with a 30 energy cost hemo and no pos req.
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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:07 PM

Yeah that 30k crit that requires 5 combo points and doesn't happen very often. Most of the time using FB is a waste of time/combo points.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:07 PM

and btw, theres not much difference in FB betwen 4.1 and 4.2, I did 45k crit on a mage at 2500 rating in 3v3, we allways done shitloads of burst on cloth when we get the oppurtunity, at wotlk I did a 15k on a mage in 5s farming for arena master. FB on mages have and will hopefully allways be amazing.
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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:11 PM

View PostL0Liver, on 30 June 2011 - 07:05 PM, said:

ferals are fine l2p, worse are the rogues critting 20k with a 30 energy cost hemo and no pos req.

rofl jk 8k crits

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:12 PM

they gave us fb damage buff so they can now remove forms
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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:19 PM

Im just saying this is not going to be ignored lol.
Ferals are starting to become more popular in arena and if they get better than any pure/viable classes(rogues warlocks mages) people are going to complain about them.

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rofl jk 8k crits
I was in bear form(specced into thick hide) and with the new Natural reaction (18%dmg reduc) and getting crit for 18k backstabs by a hemo rogue with a t1 sword. But he couldnt cloak my roots or FF so i win :)

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:20 PM

why was DMC:H nerfed so it's mediocre for enhance but unheeded warning was left alone?  :confused:
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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:26 PM

View PostTwocat, on 30 June 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:

why was DMC:H nerfed so it's mediocre for enhance but unheeded warning was left alone?  :confused:
Idk but they way that unheeded is caling with ferals with this change is absurd.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:29 PM

View PostNumbtoes, on 30 June 2011 - 07:19 PM, said:

Im just saying this is not going to be ignored lol.
Ferals are starting to become more popular in arena and if they get better than any pure/viable classes(rogues warlocks mages) people are going to complain about them.

I was in bear form(specced into thick hide) and with the new Natural reaction (18%dmg reduc) and getting crit for 18k backstabs by a hemo rogue with a t1 sword. But he couldnt cloak my roots or FF so i win :)

lulz you mean hemo'd and idk why his hemos would crit that high if i have t2 etc bis pve pieces it hits for 9k

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:34 PM

View Postjjxoxo, on 30 June 2011 - 07:29 PM, said:

lulz you mean hemo'd and idk why his hemos would crit that high if i have t2 etc bis pve pieces it hits for 9k
I bet he was switching to daggers with dance, that is probably what it was. But his dances hurt. If I didnt trinket his dance I would die.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:35 PM

The bite buff is needed due to healing buff, anyway Ferals are nice now they were nice before just needed abit more burst, since u can only burst when  u have unheaded warning and TF and 5cp to maim which is rare to accur unless u time it, So i've seen some nice dmg on bites today but the healing thats happening is LoL so stop thinking as a 1vs1 game and mroe as 3vs3 with healers in it..

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:55 PM

yes, FB and unheeded being better are the only things that changed in any real way about feral damage, but i definitely think FB is too good now

it won't change much about arena really, because FB basically works like an execute (if you use it an it's not a kill, it means you basically just lose pressure completely for a while normally), but it will cause (fairly justifiable) complaints - an ability with the mechanics FB can't be attractive to use or else it will be too good. it should basically be an awful ability in order to stay reasonable.

Edited by Datah, 30 June 2011 - 08:02 PM.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 07:59 PM

I was hit for 33k pre patch (although I've never seen that happen before). It was the last day of the season (synapse springs, tigers fury and maybe unheeded and maybe clearcasting, cant remember).

I do however feel that it hits for more now, I see silly numbers sometimes.
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Posted 30 June 2011 - 08:02 PM

View PostDaisyduke, on 30 June 2011 - 07:59 PM, said:

I was hit for 33k pre patch (although I've never seen that happen before). It was the last day of the season (synapse springs, tigers fury and maybe unheeded and maybe clearcasting, cant remember).

I do however feel that it hits for more now, I see silly numbers sometimes.

clearcasting doesn't increase FB damage potential, and unheeded procs don't affect it at all (an agi use trinket would though) =p

Edited by Datah, 30 June 2011 - 08:02 PM.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 08:04 PM

View PostDatah, on 30 June 2011 - 07:55 PM, said:

yes, FB is the only thing that changed in any real way about feral damage, but i definitely think it's too good now

it won't change much about arena really, because FB basically works like an execute (if you use it an it's not a kill, it means you basically just lose pressure completely for a while normally), but it will cause (fairly justifiable) complaints - an ability with the mechanics FB can't be attractive to use or else it will be too good. it should basically be an awful ability in order to stay reasonable.
Datah, FB is rly fine atm, its not to much at all, a frost mage can outdo FB in damage in a shatter, it takes 5 combo points and tigers fury to get that kind of FB.
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