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#1 Kollektivv

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:36 AM

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The story begins with 2 teams...

Vanguards/Debao/Diziet's team; Sushi
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Nevz alt's Team; LoL... Wait what?; The link to this teams armory seems broken because of invalid characters in the name, but they are currently at the top of US Reckoning BG ladder.

The team Sushi has purposefully traded losses to the team Lol... Wait what?.
The team Lol... Wait what? had climbed the ladder to a position close to rank one, and then once reaching this rating, organized games with Sushi, who lost to them, so that Lol... Wait what? could take the rank 1 spot.

Here's a few screenshots of what initially went down;

First Game Win-traded
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Second Game Win-traded
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Third Game Win-traded
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Fourth Game Win-Traded
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"Sushi" had nothing to lose by organizing this trade, since they hold rank 1 in 3v3 by a large margin, so can afford to lose rating in 5v5, to the team of "Lol... Wait What?".

Also after professing that his team 'Sushi' would pass the rank 1 team at that time Jim Carrey ft The Mask, Alex was happy to trade wins to secure his rank 1 title in 3v3.
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When they traded with each other, neither team was playing with their actual line up, Team Sushi traded without Vanguards (the ret paladin they played all their games with) while "Lol... Wait What?" queued without a mage (who had played all the games up until that point) and instead played with TWO priests (this is one of the main indications that they intended to trade, playing with two priests in one 5v5 team would greatly hinder their ability to climb the ladder, especially when queuing against top-notch teams)

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Both teams playing comps they don't usually play while they trade.


The reason they traded with two priests on the team, is because the mage on the team Lol... Wait What? has really low 5v5 mmr
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The team, despite the mage's mmr, is 2754.
So if you factor in the mmr gain from the second priest (around 2.5k+ mmr) they would have a much higher team MMR than 2754, so when they traded they would gain upwards of 20 points a win from Sushi.

Another thing to note is that "Sushi" has not Q'd 5's for MONTHS and the first time they all log on and Queue 5's, they vs the (at the time) rank 2 team. This means that they clearly ARRANGED to play with each other, which is "selective Queuing" and is against Blizzard's rules.


"Sushi" also picked up some random priest (most likely with High MMR) to play with them, instead of their own team mate "Vanguardy", who they had played with all season long.

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Following these initial trades three members from the 5v5 team Sushi; Venoma, Diziet and Alex
traded with 3 members from  the 5v5 team Lol... Wait what?; Zephcow, Worstlock, Worstspriest

They were repaying the favor, by attempting to feed Venoma and Diziet into personal rating range, so that they could receive the rank one title from the 3v3 bracket in their team Sushi Day.

Both teams vs each other 3:14 am
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Same again; 3:21 am
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Nevz's (Zephcow, worstspriest, worstlock) team goes 0-3
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The funny thing here, is that the rank 1 3v3 team, Sushi Day, had not queued for months, sitting on the rank 1 spot on the ladder. Then today, they just happen to immediately queue into the players they traded with in 5v5 only moments before.


So lets recap on all the things they've done:

1 - Win-traded; Both teams were online for about 3 hours Queuing and the only teams that either team managed to VS were themselves. Note: They Q'd at 1AM and onwards, hoping to avoid legitimate 5's teams. Following 5v5 they traded 3v3 wins.

2 - Arranged to Queue against each other.

3 - Also possible ACCOUNT SHARING - Look at "Worstmage" armory page http://us.battle.net...tatistic#21:152 ,  a whole host of new achievements and his highest 3v3 Personal rating - 2282. A 2300 player becomes a 2700 player over the course of 2 days. (Most likely affiliated with Arena rating selling websites).
We also have reason to believe that the shaman "Zephcow" , "Worstpriest" and "Worstspriest" are account sharing as well.

Something cute that Nevz said in skype:

[8:43:22 PM] Aetarius: holy fuck
[8:43:29 PM] Aetarius: 2747?!
[8:43:36 PM] Aetarius: dayummmm
[8:43:46 PM] Aetarius: who are the dudes your playing with dude?
[8:51:04 PM] Nevz: mad?
[8:51:13 PM] Nevz: you don't q up and you lose out
[8:51:28 PM] Nevz: q'd for fucking 6 hours straight
[8:51:46 PM] Nevz: I even told you all the teams we fought
[8:54:09 PM] Aetarius: o well
[8:54:18 PM] Aetarius: you guys worked hard for it
[8:54:22 PM] Aetarius: congrats
[9:01:10 PM] Nevz: rofl you thought we wintraded
[9:01:12 PM] Nevz: thats classic

Thread on the wow forums saying the same shit.

Feel free to make the following GM Ticket and report these trouble makers (you will have to edit in the links yourself, aj shortens them);

The arena team Lol... Wait what? (http://us.battle.net...a/reckoning/5v5) attempted to gain an unfair advantage in obtaining the rank 1 5v5 arena title by trading wins with the team Sushi (http://us.battle.net...nmaw/5v5/Sushi/)

For further evidence please view this thread:
http://us.battle.net...opic/2721385079

This is a serious matter and against the terms of service, as it ruins the competitive playing experience for PVPers.


Naughty little Nevz  :lol:

Edit:

Nevz own partner calls him out;

"Hey more fuel for the fire: :lol:

[3:23:43 AM] Mukul Dixit: dude i am fucking tired
[3:23:49 AM] Mukul Dixit: you should be thankful i am doing this shit
[3:25:15 AM] Ankit: YEH
[3:25:17 AM] Mukul Dixit: i dont want to fucking trade and this isnt even my fucking shaman
[3:25:19 AM] Ankit: i know
[3:25:27 AM] Ankit: i dont either but
[3:25:31 AM] Ankit: theres too manys ells shit

Then:

[3:26:30 AM] Mukul Dixit: this is fucking stupid
[3:26:43 AM] Mukul Dixit: i dont want any mouth breathing retarded idiot talking unruly to me
[3:26:53 AM] Mukul Dixit: i shouldnt be doing this shit and we were q'ing legit earlier, and wouldve gotten it today
[3:26:55 AM] Mukul Dixit: yet we traded
[3:26:57 AM] Ankit: yah i dont want to either
[3:27:01 AM] Mukul Dixit: and you guys are showing me attitudes now

And then later on in the night!:

[3:59:09 AM] Diziet: got what shit
[3:59:29 AM] Diziet: that is why
[3:59:30 AM] Diziet: I told you
[3:59:32 AM] Diziet: to fly in theair
[3:59:33 AM] Mukul Dixit: diziet you sound like you have 3 penises down your throat, you should try to pull em out at some point
[3:59:34 AM] Mukul Dixit: faggot "

Edit:

Another interesting conversation:
(Aetarius plays in the team currently in 2nd place on the ladder)

[10:32:30 PM] Aetarius: you sir are a fukin legend!  mad respect!
[10:32:38 PM] Mukul Dixit: Mukul Dixit has shared contact details with Aetarius.
[10:32:45 PM] Mukul Dixit: lol
[10:33:10 PM] Aetarius: (h)
[10:33:24 PM] Mukul Dixit: didnt wanna do that she and we were beating every single team LEGIT yet those guys wanted to trade to speed it up
[10:33:32 PM] Mukul Dixit: shit*
[10:33:41 PM] Mukul Dixit: we wouldve gotten it legit but nope, idiots wanted to trade
[10:33:42 PM] Mukul Dixit: fuck em all
[10:34:04 PM] Aetarius: ye if you legit pass us, good on you
[10:34:25 PM] Aetarius: but getting like 100 point lead while wintrading
[10:34:29 PM] Aetarius: fuck that rofl
[10:34:38 PM] Mukul Dixit: we did legit pass you, we were about 2690 and then these guys wanted to do it the easy way
[10:34:50 PM] Mukul Dixit: making me play a shaman that i dont own (nor am getting paid for to get a rank 1 on it)
[10:34:53 PM] Mukul Dixit: fuck that
[10:34:58 PM] Aetarius: rofl wow
[10:35:34 PM] Mukul Dixit: feel free to post this convo on AJ too if you want.... fuck diziet :D

Edit:

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The person who talked with me here, later said that the mage is champy, not vile.

Edited by Kollektivv, 28 June 2011 - 01:20 AM.


#2 Hawtstuffs

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:38 AM

1st

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:39 AM

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:39 AM

imposter
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A shortened life span is very possible when you get less than six hours of sleep on a regular basis or on most nights.

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#5 Twocat

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:42 AM

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:43 AM

Very nice work there lad, bust the fuckers!

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:45 AM

what a beast detective

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:45 AM

venoma wintrades all the time

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:46 AM

This guy is quite the detective..
Alts -

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:47 AM

Dwarf version of Sherlock, good one

View PostMomohxo, on 24 May 2011 - 05:25 PM, said:

then i suggest you shut your gob when you talk to gods m8
2.9K Frost TSG hpala, clearly a god.

#11 mukuld50

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:47 AM

View PostKollektivv, on 27 June 2011 - 11:36 AM, said:


1 - Win-traded; Both teams were online for about 3 hours Queuing and the only teams that either team managed to VS were themselves. Note: They Q'd at 1AM and onwards, hoping to avoid legitimate 5's teams. Following 5v5 they traded 3v3 wins.


IDK about any of the rest of the post as clearly you put your work into staying online for hours stalking a team because the title means so much to you... however just FYI, they did not just vs. Diziets' team.

Spriest from Nevz' team was streaming, and they faced a double DK lock paladin priest team many times as well from BG9 (~2600 MMR team).  They beat that team with both of the setups that they ran: mage lock spriest shaman druid and spriest lock moonkin shaman disc priest.  Feel free to go on I think Frostmourne? and asked Mesmerized (or w/e that DK's team name is).  Reason for running double priest from what I was told by the shadow priest, was so that they could catch up PRs for both of the priests quicker.

Good job on your detective work though  :lol:

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:48 AM

holy shit you managed to inspect the guy who was hiding in azshara

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:49 AM

View Postmukuld50, on 27 June 2011 - 11:47 AM, said:

IDK about any of the rest of the post as clearly you put your work into staying online for hours stalking a team because the title means so much to you... however just FYI, they did not just vs. Diziets' team.

Spriest from Nevz' team was streaming, and they faced a double DK lock paladin priest team many times as well from BG9 (~2600 MMR team).  They beat that team with both of the setups that they ran: mage lock spriest shaman druid and spriest lock moonkin shaman disc priest.  Feel free to go on I think Frostmourne? and asked Mesmerized (or w/e that DK's team name is).  Reason for running double priest from what I was told by the shadow priest, was so that they could catch up PRs for both of the priests quicker.

Good job on your detective work though  :lol:

They faced those teams earlier in the day,
while they were queuing these trades, it was much later in the day, after 1 am.

It doesn't make any difference whether they played against other teams or not, these are clear instances of traded matches.

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:49 AM

I love you

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:50 AM

this right here is dedication

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:50 AM

This argument was so in depth idk i totally believe him still. Owned those win trading homos. Wonder if that will be in their next pvp vid? lol

Edited by Helscythe, 27 June 2011 - 11:50 AM.

You suck. no one likes you and your mom dresses you funny..


http://www.youtube.c...he?feature=mhum

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:51 AM

people still care this much about titles?

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:53 AM

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:53 AM

View Postmukuld50, on 27 June 2011 - 11:47 AM, said:

IDK about any of the rest of the post as clearly you put your work into staying online for hours stalking a team because the title means so much to you... however just FYI, they did not just vs. Diziets' team.

Spriest from Nevz' team was streaming, and they faced a double DK lock paladin priest team many times as well from BG9 (~2600 MMR team).  They beat that team with both of the setups that they ran: mage lock spriest shaman druid and spriest lock moonkin shaman disc priest.  Feel free to go on I think Frostmourne? and asked Mesmerized (or w/e that DK's team name is).  Reason for running double priest from what I was told by the shadow priest, was so that they could catch up PRs for both of the priests quicker.

Good job on your detective work though  :lol:
lol this is kind of funny coming from the shaman on the now rank 1 team lmfao, caught

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Posted 27 June 2011 - 11:54 AM

LOL YOU THOUGHT WE WIN TRADED, LOL WE DID




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