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#21 Hotted

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:11 PM

View PostAsol, on 24 May 2011 - 04:46 PM, said:

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#Deep Freeze and Ring of Frost will now cause diminishing returns for each other.

#Spellsteal mana cost has been increased 100%

^Instead of the 6s cd :-)

Probably the best changes of the patch (still waiting on rdruids changes, jk rerolling.)
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#22 Daisyduke

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:11 PM

Why not just make it share 3sec CD when you use one or the other (making DF ring Bullshit impossible). I don't get blizzard
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:13 PM

View PostTrikso, on 24 May 2011 - 05:05 PM, said:

so you are implying that blizzard would fix a DF -> RoF combo by allowing us to do Polly -> RoF?

really?

yeh that would actually end up to be a BUFF to mages rofl "we intend to nerf, OOPS IT TURNED OUT TO BE A BUFF!xDxD"

#24 saffie

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:21 PM

what about that %100 increased mana on spellsteal nerf? Isn't that kinda pointless? I haven't seen a mage go oom since they buffed the armors.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:24 PM

View PostAlysana, on 24 May 2011 - 05:07 PM, said:

They're probably just gonna make it spell specific, as in this change will ONLY affect Deep into Ring.

this. any1 with half brain would figure this out

#26 Klonken

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:25 PM

View Postsaffie, on 24 May 2011 - 05:21 PM, said:

what about that %100 increased mana on spellsteal nerf? Isn't that kinda pointless? I haven't seen a mage go oom since they buffed the armors.

dunno feels like its a failed attempt do try make them go oom again :P

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:27 PM

View Postsaffie, on 24 May 2011 - 05:21 PM, said:

what about that %100 increased mana on spellsteal nerf? Isn't that kinda pointless? I haven't seen a mage go oom since they buffed the armors.

they will go oom if they increase it by 100%
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#28 Palatinus

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:27 PM

This is blizzard we are talking about. I'll be surprised if they have made DF and ROF DR spell specific, especially in this very first build of the change. That just isn't something blizzard would do, they are too lazy and don't think about stuff like that.

I would of said its much more likely that blizzard has just simply moved deep freeze to the ring of frost DR category or ring of frost on stun DR.

It makes RMP ect ect OP right? You really think blizzard has thought that far ahead? They'll deal with the problems of X combo being overpowered next season/patch, rather than spend 2 seconds thinking about what a change like this would do.

View PostCasabonitasup, on 23 May 2011 - 07:54 AM, said:

just l2p like hydra and all will be just fine.

#29 Klonken

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:34 PM

View PostPalatinus, on 24 May 2011 - 05:27 PM, said:

This is blizzard we are talking about. I'll be surprised if they have made DF and ROF DR spell specific, especially in this very first build of the change. That just isn't something blizzard would do, they are too lazy and don't think about stuff like that.

I would of said its much more likely that blizzard has just simply moved deep freeze to the ring of frost DR category or ring of frost on stun DR.

It makes RMP ect ect OP right? You really think blizzard has thought that far ahead? They'll deal with the problems of X combo being overpowered next season/patch, rather than spend 2 seconds thinking about what a change like this would do.
well moving rof into stun dr could be a nerf for rmp too i guess? if the healer for example is dred in a switch ?

#30 Berèn

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:42 PM

Yay guess this means they actually read these forums
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:52 PM

So I don't get it, does DF share dr with stuns and sheeps now? Lol?

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 06:05 PM

well it clearly says they will DR themselves only, not anything else
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 06:19 PM

View PostTrikso, on 24 May 2011 - 05:05 PM, said:

so you are implying that blizzard would fix a DF -> RoF combo by allowing us to do Polly -> RoF?

really?
Yes, but blizzard logic this wouldnt suprise me.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 06:25 PM

They're not going to pull RoF into sharing DRs with stuns, or pull Deep Freeze into sharing DRs with poly/RoF.  My guess is that they've just created a special case here, where Deep Freeze will still DR with everything that it does now, RoF will DR with everything that it does now, while Deep Freeze will DR with RoF and RoF will DR with Deep Freeze.

Granted, it is Blizzard that we're talking about, with some of the vaguest tooltips and spell changes that I've ever seen when it takes forever for them to clarify it in a blue post.  But moving RoF to stun DRs would be OP for CC'ing healers (though poly -> RoF is at least more preventable), while moving DF to sheep DRs would cripple a mage's ability to CC healers, but would actually be really solid for killing stuff due to not sharing DRs with cheap or kidney.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 06:54 PM

View PostObelodalix, on 24 May 2011 - 05:09 PM, said:

The RoF change seems pretty decent, but the spellsteal change is fucking retarded. What'll it cost now? 5k mana? Who cares about that shit, mages don't oom anyway, and if they run oom *that* much faster they can just evo *that* much faster. :| The CD was a perfectly fine and called for change, imo.
7k mana, and if u spam that for any length of time you will go oom very quickly

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My personal opinion about why PHD/ATC/Beastcleave are not being that succesful on Tournaments is that in many cases it relies on the enemy making an error...In a sense, that makes them the underdog...Hunter's have never really been that OP. People just have the image that hunters should be something to be stomped over

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:05 PM

View PostDizzeeyo, on 24 May 2011 - 06:54 PM, said:

7k mana, and if u spam that for any length of time you will go oom very quickly
jk evocate

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:09 PM

View PostChamp, on 24 May 2011 - 07:05 PM, said:

jk evocate
ty for the useful comment

Hakfu said:

My personal opinion about why PHD/ATC/Beastcleave are not being that succesful on Tournaments is that in many cases it relies on the enemy making an error...In a sense, that makes them the underdog...Hunter's have never really been that OP. People just have the image that hunters should be something to be stomped over

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:14 PM

View PostDiscopelle, on 24 May 2011 - 05:24 PM, said:

this. any1 with half brain would figure this out
Well i have half a brain, but I also have a blizzard thinking brain that always manages to screw stuff up even worse. Though you might be right considering they made warr charge stun independant.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:15 PM

*generic sarcastic comment about blizzard being stupid*

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:21 PM

6sec cd was better :>




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