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#1 Asol

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 04:46 PM

I'll keep this post updated with the latest changes in the patch notes


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#Deep Freeze and Ring of Frost will now cause diminishing returns for each other.

#Spellsteal mana cost has been increased 100%

^Instead of the 6s cd :-)


NEW CHANGES TO SPELLSTEAL:

#Spellsteal now costs 40% of base mana, up from 20%.

Spellsteal still has 0s cd

Edited by Asol, 25 May 2011 - 11:31 PM.

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#2 Dakkrothy

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 04:47 PM

the DF & Ring of frost change is what i was begging for all this time, its actually fine now!111

Edited by Dakkrothy, 24 May 2011 - 04:49 PM.


#3 Nazhjin

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 04:50 PM

why are you happy. now DF DR's sheep.

#4 Grimzie

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 04:51 PM

View PostNazhjin, on 24 May 2011 - 04:50 PM, said:

why are you happy. now DF DR's sheep.

No.
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#5 Dakkrothy

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 04:53 PM

View PostNazhjin, on 24 May 2011 - 04:50 PM, said:

why are you happy. now DF DR's sheep.

the other way around, ring of frost will most likely dr other stuns

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 04:55 PM

These are the right changes to the problem.  I'd rather have DF and RoF invoke a 5 second cooldown on each other but the spellsteal change is the absolute right one.

Edited by normalfreak2, 24 May 2011 - 04:55 PM.


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Posted 24 May 2011 - 04:56 PM

RoF change: great change
Spellsteal: worthless, wont change anything.
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 04:56 PM

View PostNazhjin, on 24 May 2011 - 04:50 PM, said:

why are you happy. now DF DR's sheep.


View PostDakkrothy, on 24 May 2011 - 04:53 PM, said:

the other way around, ring of frost will most likely dr other stuns

I do hope so. I'm all for the removal of DF -> RoF but it def. should not cause a DR to Polymorph!
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#9 droolingmoron

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 04:57 PM

View PostDakkrothy, on 24 May 2011 - 04:53 PM, said:

the other way around, ring of frost will most likely dr other stuns
if thats true why would you ever welcome this change basically it means a mage can cc even longer now vs teams that can't do anything about it
oh healer is full sheep why not place a rof afterwards lololol
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 04:57 PM

it doesnt say with all stuns or anything about stuns DRing poly, they prolly just made it spell specific
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 04:57 PM

So does that mean that since DF and RoF share a DR, and since that RoF and sheep share a DR, that sheep and DF share a DR as well? Or is it just a single DR between these 2 abilities only?

I don't have the PTR but surely someone on it can tell me/us?

#12 Darrgen

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:00 PM

If ring of frost doesnt continue to dr sheeps and stuff then dk/mage/priest would be insanely overpowered. And if deep freeze isnt on stun dr anymore than rmp will be insanely overpowered with full deep into kidney. Most likely they will make ring of frost share both stun and sheep/hunger dr schools.

#13 affix

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:01 PM

really dumb change IMO, makes druids super good against mages again (we can nova+imp cs+RoF other healers).

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:02 PM

View Postlucassoleil2, on 24 May 2011 - 04:57 PM, said:

if thats true why would you ever welcome this change basically it means a mage can cc even longer now vs teams that can't do anything about it
oh healer is full sheep why not place a rof afterwards lololol
wat

you do realize that sheep and rof are on the same cd right?
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View PostTezhu, on 14 March 2011 - 03:57 PM, said:

overpowered

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:04 PM

View PostTrikso, on 24 May 2011 - 05:02 PM, said:

wat

you do realize that sheep and rof are on the same cd right?
no i don't realize that since rof and df appear to be on same dr next patch

Edited by lucassoleil2, 24 May 2011 - 05:04 PM.

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#16 Trikso

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:05 PM

View Postlucassoleil2, on 24 May 2011 - 05:04 PM, said:

no i don't realize that since rof and df appear to be on same dr next patch
so you are implying that blizzard would fix a DF -> RoF combo by allowing us to do Polly -> RoF?

really?
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:07 PM

They're probably just gonna make it spell specific, as in this change will ONLY affect Deep into Ring.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:09 PM

View PostTrikso, on 24 May 2011 - 05:05 PM, said:

so you are implying that blizzard would fix a DF -> RoF combo by allowing us to do Polly -> RoF?

really?
why not? its blizzard after all, but tbh

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They're probably just gonna make it spell specific, as in this change will ONLY affect Deep into Ring.
is prolly right
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:09 PM

The RoF change seems pretty decent, but the spellsteal change is fucking retarded. What'll it cost now? 5k mana? Who cares about that shit, mages don't oom anyway, and if they run oom *that* much faster they can just evo *that* much faster. :| The CD was a perfectly fine and called for change, imo.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 05:10 PM

Obviously they made it so deep freeze only DR with ring of frost and not polymorph.

Ring will still DR with poly and deep will DR with ring but not poly.
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