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#1 Ragingsteer

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 02:12 AM

I just starting running hunt/feral/sham with some friends and we're having trouble with a few different teams.  The hunter is an alt and is still in quite a few blues, but he's quite good so I don't feel like we should be having much trouble.  Just would like to get some basic strats/pointers from some of you guys who have run this successfully or are familiar with the comp.  

Lock/dk/sham or lock/war/sham:
We play these two fairly often, and never seem to be able to score a kill on the lock.  The lock pillars/ports all game long and just spreads tons of damage until we fall behind.

KFC:
Depends on the team.  We usually try to kill the hunter, is that the right target?  When they go on our hunter, we usually win, when they go on me, it can go either way.  

PRM:
Is the mage the right target in this?  Every PRM we played has just sat on me the entire game, and it makes it difficult to get a kill on the mage.  

Thanks!
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#2 Overskilledlol

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 02:56 AM

View PostRagingsteer, on 22 May 2011 - 02:12 AM, said:

I just starting running hunt/feral/sham with some friends and we're having trouble with a few different teams.  The hunter is an alt and is still in quite a few blues, but he's quite good so I don't feel like we should be having much trouble.  Just would like to get some basic strats/pointers from some of you guys who have run this successfully or are familiar with the comp.  

Lock/dk/sham or lock/war/sham:
We play these two fairly often, and never seem to be able to score a kill on the lock.  The lock pillars/ports all game long and just spreads tons of damage until we fall behind.

KFC:
Depends on the team.  We usually try to kill the hunter, is that the right target?  When they go on our hunter, we usually win, when they go on me, it can go either way.  

PRM:
Is the mage the right target in this?  Every PRM we played has just sat on me the entire game, and it makes it difficult to get a kill on the mage.  

Thanks!

WLS/Shadowcleave is gonna be rough because warlock in every scenario > hunter. Your best bet is to swap a lot, when lock makes himself available, hit him, when he ports, switch warrior or DK. Don't bother chasing, your best bet is to just put out as much damage as possible versus any of these teams. KFC like you said can go either way. For PMR a lot of teams think it's the best bet to go mage all game, but if you can hard swap once on rogue and force him to use Combat Readiness then you're in a good spot. Just re-swap on him again when it's off and you might be able to score a kill. Although with PMR I think you can score a kill on either target with hunter freedom+dash and stampeding roar rotations.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 04:10 AM

Dot cleaves will cause a pain in ur side no matter what the situation. Best bet against lock teams is to kill their warrior/rogue/Dk with them, swapping pressure to the lock if defensives are popped. Rogues take some obscene dmg from Hunter/ferals.
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Posted 22 May 2011 - 04:29 AM

Repeat after me:

R
M
P


Not prm, not pmr, not rpm, not mrp, not mpr.

RMP

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 05:10 AM

View Postgrio, on 22 May 2011 - 04:29 AM, said:

Repeat after me:

R
M
P


Not prm, not pmr, not rpm, not mrp, not mpr.

RMP

RMP!?
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Posted 22 May 2011 - 09:02 AM

Locks are very tough to get a kill on as jungle cleave, so you should do just what hype said. RMP can be tricky to beat, depending on how good they are. We used to open on the priest with a bestial wrath nuke, you could use berserk but we usually saved it, and that should force a ps from the priest. After that you just hit what you can basically. When you have master's call/dash/stampeding roar or if he blinks to a stupid position you can go for mage, he's gonna be hard to kill without some anti-kiting cds.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 09:29 AM

View Postgrio, on 22 May 2011 - 04:29 AM, said:

Repeat after me:

R
M
P


Not prm, not pmr, not rpm, not mrp, not mpr.

RMP

This is funny because I get irritated by anything other than RMP... maybe it's because I learned it back in s2 as RMP and not any of the other ones... Lol

Edited by Phayded, 22 May 2011 - 09:29 AM.


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Posted 22 May 2011 - 06:46 PM

For Warlock teams, you have to play against them just like an MLS or whatever would. We usually try to sit on the DK and off interrupt _everything_ the Warlock does. Eventually, you can have your Feral switch off to CCing the Shaman but you and your Shaman should be enough to interrupt the Warlock just about indefinitely and positioning takes care of most of his Howls.

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 06:53 PM

View Postgrio, on 22 May 2011 - 04:29 AM, said:

Repeat after me:

R
M
P


Not prm, not pmr, not rpm, not mrp, not mpr.

RMP
Wasn't it originally called pmr?


It just sounds to me like these rogues are glory hogs if the big deal is the ordering of letters.

Edited by Celaurthor, 22 May 2011 - 06:54 PM.


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Posted 22 May 2011 - 08:56 PM

How does hunter/feral/healer fair against melee cleaves?

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 10:24 PM

View PostCelaurthor, on 22 May 2011 - 06:53 PM, said:

Wasn't it originally called pmr?


It just sounds to me like these rogues are glory hogs if the big deal is the ordering of letters.
if you haven't noticed the letter for the healer is almost always the last one:
WLDruid
WLShaman
RLShaman
RMPriest
LSDruid (referring to LSD 1.0)
HLDruid
etc

(yea, PHD is an exception)

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 02:13 AM

View Postsnackbacon, on 22 May 2011 - 08:56 PM, said:

How does hunter/feral/healer fair against melee cleaves?
not very well

#13 Ragingsteer

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 10:30 PM

View Postthreatslol, on 23 May 2011 - 02:13 AM, said:

not very well

It's really hard to peel frost dk/war while simultaneously putting out enough damage to make them go defensive.  If we can't separate them at the start, they just tunnel the sham into the ground.  No skill or thought process required.
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Posted 23 May 2011 - 11:04 PM

it was pmr btw.

i would appreciate tactics too :P

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Posted 23 May 2011 - 11:54 PM

Are you running with the monkey for the disorient?
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Posted 24 May 2011 - 01:03 AM

View PostAthená, on 23 May 2011 - 11:54 PM, said:

Are you running with the monkey for the disorient?
lol

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 10:12 AM

View Postthreatslol, on 24 May 2011 - 01:03 AM, said:

lol

Well? Elitist comments like yours make me sick, not helpful nor explanitory on wether im wrong or not.

Edited by Athená, 24 May 2011 - 10:18 AM.

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Posted 28 May 2011 - 12:27 PM

So this setup is quite well rounded, and it seems that its nice to use monkey pet for this? I could imagine TSG being quite hard now with frost dks state. Would it be worth it to peel with bad manner or just use it on h pala vs tsg?

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Posted 29 May 2011 - 06:11 PM

Peeling with a skill that immediatly breaks on damage is not a good idea mate. rather use Spider then to peel.

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Posted 04 September 2011 - 02:42 AM

So true also it's usually Meele / Ranged(caster) / Healer

WarriorLD
WarriorLS
RogueLS
RogueMP


etc



View PostTocky, on 22 May 2011 - 10:24 PM, said:

if you haven't noticed the letter for the healer is almost always the last one:
WLDruid
WLShaman
RLShaman
RMPriest
LSDruid (referring to LSD 1.0)
HLDruid
etc

(yea, PHD is an exception)

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