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#21 stazzy

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 07:19 AM

Proper changes would require NS losing CoT effect. Death Grip from 1 yard to interrupt every 25 seconds needs to be addressed too. A class that does monster damage with the ability to break the majority of peels/ccs will have to kill a healer without %30 cast reduction and 1 yard DG interrupt. 1 min strangulate, 10 sec mindfreeze and if required Hungering Cold is enough already. If they wanna make the class reasonable, they should start by making these changes.

%8 nerf to HB nice but Frost Strike remains untouched, which is unfortunate.


do you even think before you post

your first few changes would affect unholy aswell and probably trash the specc

plz........unholy isnt worst then shs rogues

Edited by stazzy, 19 May 2011 - 07:20 AM.

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#22 Twixymoney

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:01 AM

Good to hear frost will be nerf, but I guess it's not enough, I mean, it's not really gonna change something.
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#23 Fadezz^

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:26 AM

Howling Blast damage has been reduced by 8%, from [ 1441 + 48% AP ] + [ 721 + 24% of AP ] to [ 1322 + 48% of AP ] + [ 661 + 24% of AP ]

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Annihilation now increases damage dealt by Obliterate by 15/30/45%, up from 12/24/36%.

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#24 GLopez

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:27 AM

That's just reverting an Obliterate nerf that never made it live. Don't worry about it.
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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:30 AM

oh that clears it up

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#26 Twixymoney

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:49 AM

Anyway, we never use OB in PvP, don't cry.
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#27 Xelithras

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:50 AM

fml nerf unholy more... i expect some kind of buff to UH now i dont want to be forced to play frost bullshit spec even in 4.2
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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:59 AM

do you even think before you post

your first few changes would affect unholy aswell and probably trash the specc

plz........unholy isnt worst then shs rogues

It does not matter, you can always compensate by making other changes.
If you find it normal that there exists an ability doing damage +healing absorb + aoe snare + cast time reduction and talk about thinking before posting, you are obviously not very qualified in that department.

Everyone knows that with the amount of peel avoidance and cc breaks + anti-caster tools + amazing damage, the class is way too good.
Nerfing HB %8 while letting Frost Strike unchanged is not addressing the real problem.
Go ahead and compare DK to rogue, a rogue does not solo fucking healers. No class in this game destroys full pvp geared healers except DK, obviously you feel entitled to everything because you are a DK and got offended when people mention retarded stuff the class gets away with.

Edited by Ispen, 19 May 2011 - 10:01 AM.

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#29 stazzy

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 10:24 AM

It does not matter, you can always compensate by making other changes.
If you find it normal that there exists an ability doing damage +healing absorb + aoe snare + cast time reduction and talk about thinking before posting, you are obviously not very qualified in that department.

Everyone knows that with the amount of peel avoidance and cc breaks + anti-caster tools + amazing damage, the class is way too good.
Nerfing HB %8 while letting Frost Strike unchanged is not addressing the real problem.
Go ahead and compare DK to rogue, a rogue does not solo fucking healers. No class in this game destroys full pvp geared healers except DK, obviously you feel entitled to everything because you are a DK and got offended when people mention retarded stuff the class gets away with.


cant you distuinguish between a class and a specc?

im talking from an unholy pov, not a frost. ive actually attacked other DKs who justify frost damage and whatnot, but it doesnt matter does it because people like automatically put everyone under the same boat and assume they want to get away with "everything"

take your head out of your ass for one minute, and look at how shit unholy would be if you actually implemented all that. rofl death grip nerf, what kind of suggestion is that. There are WAY more easier stuff to nerf frost dks with, w/o rendering another specc useless.

and yes from a balance pov, i dont feel more overpowered the sub rogues as unholy but maybe im just biased even though that seems to be the generel consensus(you know, like all the other rogues who say their class is finexD??)

Edited by stazzy, 19 May 2011 - 10:30 AM.

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#30 Satarrus

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 10:29 AM

Chances are you wont even feel the nerf to necro strike as unholy due to the unholy might buff.
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Posted 19 May 2011 - 10:34 AM

Chances are you wont even feel the nerf to necro strike as unholy due to the unholy might buff.


was about the cast time thingy removed, which id be fine with if they took rogues aswell, but the death grip change(rofl really death grip) would be a horrendous idea. not sure what he was smoking
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#32 Kelarm

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 11:33 AM

Anti fucking magic shell. Period.

Edit: also frost DKs do massively more damage than pretty much any other class in the game and it doesn't even count the giant necrotics, 8% is not enough.

Edited by Kelarm, 19 May 2011 - 11:36 AM.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 11:37 AM

i think as unholy the necro strike stack would be the same as with 4.1 due to the 5% str buff (unholy might) and by the other hand a slight frost nerf...

besides the unholy might 5% str buff affects everything and is in my opinion a "huge" unholy buff.. unholy isnt broken atm, unholy is just weaker than frost due to the ridiculous state of frost right now.. and frost will get more nerfs in the next patchnotes thats for sure.
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#34 Xelithras

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 11:45 AM

Proper changes would require NS losing CoT effect. Death Grip from 1 yard to interrupt every 25 seconds needs to be addressed too. A class that does monster damage with the ability to break the majority of peels/ccs will have to kill a healer without %30 cast reduction and 1 yard DG interrupt. 1 min strangulate, 10 sec mindfreeze and if required Hungering Cold is enough already. If they wanna make the class reasonable, they should start by making these changes.

%8 nerf to HB nice but Frost Strike remains untouched, which is unfortunate.


sure, nerf unholy more, but smoke bomb gets removed.

deal?
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#35 Verereesa

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:05 PM

It's still far beyond me why Blizzard isn't making NS exclusively available to Unholy. That would instantly solve the problem of damage for Frost, because OB would be their attack of choice. In addition, that would widen the gap between the two specs' playstyles a lot which I know I'm all for. As it stands, the playstyles of both Unholy and Frost include spamming the sh** out of your NS button.

Edited by Verereesa, 19 May 2011 - 12:07 PM.

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#36 Rappy

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:32 PM

im just happy mages got theirs first before we got ours so im happy :lol:
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#37 stazzy

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:35 PM

sure, nerf unholy more, but smoke bomb gets removed.

deal?

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the clown wants death grip nerfed aswell:OOOOO
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#38 Tw1zle

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 01:06 PM

isnt the ns nerf just because of stat inflation?
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Posted 19 May 2011 - 01:40 PM

It does not matter, you can always compensate by making other changes.
If you find it normal that there exists an ability doing damage +healing absorb + aoe snare + cast time reduction and talk about thinking before posting, you are obviously not very qualified in that department.

Everyone knows that with the amount of peel avoidance and cc breaks + anti-caster tools + amazing damage, the class is way too good.
Nerfing HB %8 while letting Frost Strike unchanged is not addressing the real problem.
Go ahead and compare DK to rogue, a rogue does not solo fucking healers. No class in this game destroys full pvp geared healers except DK, obviously you feel entitled to everything because you are a DK and got offended when people mention retarded stuff the class gets away with.

Let's play DK/Rogue toghether you and I and we shall be happypandas. :D:D

Edited by 123radulol, 19 May 2011 - 01:42 PM.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 01:41 PM

It's still far beyond me why Blizzard isn't making NS exclusively available to Unholy. That would instantly solve the problem of damage for Frost, because OB would be their attack of choice. In addition, that would widen the gap between the two specs' playstyles a lot which I know I'm all for. As it stands, the playstyles of both Unholy and Frost include spamming the sh** out of your NS button.

All specs viable in PvP, this is Blizzard's approach remember?:D:D
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