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Poll: The most balanced seasons so far, general cata changes. (383 member(s) have cast votes)

Which season was overal the most balanced, when talking about PVP geared characters in their respective season's gear?

  1. S1 (9 votes [2.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.35%

  2. S2 (20 votes [5.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.22%

  3. S3 (89 votes [23.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.24%

  4. S4 (19 votes [4.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.96%

  5. S5 (3 votes [0.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.78%

  6. S6 (26 votes [6.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.79%

  7. S7 (138 votes [36.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.03%

  8. S8 (36 votes [9.40%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.40%

  9. S9 (43 votes [11.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.23%

Wat the TBC/WotLK dispel system better than the Cataclysm dispel system?

  1. Yes (269 votes [70.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 70.23%

  2. No (114 votes [29.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.77%

Do you think Cataclysm was a step in the right direction (even if it currently doesn't immediatly show)?

  1. Yes (175 votes [45.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.69%

  2. No (208 votes [54.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 54.31%

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#1 Charred

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 02:58 PM

Poll question says it all.
"Which season was overal the most balanced, when talking about PVP geared characters in their respective season's gear?"
I'm curious to what people think actually, since S9 is comming to an end.

At the same time, might be kind of a blunt question to pose.
Do ppl believe that the overhaul of dispels (removal of defensive dispel on DPS, all healers gaining defensive dispel, etc) was a good thing?
I chose to put it in the same thread since the 2 are very closely connected to eachother.


Third & last question, do you believe Cataclysm was a step in the right direction (even if it currently doesn't immediatly show)?
I'm talking about the general revamps to all classes. Example, like how it used to be possible to outplay warlock teams by going for a pet kill, than CSing on the fel dom & keeping them locked down for its duration versus the current close to infinite pet amount of pets warlock have, making it practicly useless to go for petkills.
Another example would be mage perma water elemental in cataclysm versus mage timed water elemental pre cata.
Do you think it's a good thing stuff like this has been drasticly changed? Or would you rather see it reverted.
(note: I'm not whining about locks/mages being OP or anything, just comparing the changes & giving an example).

Edited by Charred, 16 May 2011 - 03:01 PM.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 03:05 PM

S7 was the most balanced outside of beast cleave and late ATC


For dispels I liked Wotlk
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#3 Wosco

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 03:06 PM

I honestly dislike having a Magic dispel and feel like it was a pretty bad idea to give Druids/Shamans it.
The whole dispel system feels awful IMO.

View Postnevercasts, on 05 March 2011 - 01:35 AM, said:

Tremor is a completely idiotic spell for a healer to have. It's a fear break that can be used while in a fear...stupid. Dumbest healing spell next to...well...bubble.

#4 Sherpdawerp

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 03:08 PM

some people always whine no matter what changes are introduced to the game

blizzard is doing a good job in making every class viable in cata. resto shamans are the most retarded thing to ever exist in this game though, s5 DKs, prepatch warriors and frost DKs wasn't/isn't as bad imo

nuff Qq

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 03:09 PM

Very good and interesting poll.

s7/Yes/No

All classes seem nearly the same nowadays and I miss the small things that made classes different from the others.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 03:10 PM

S7 was the most balanced exept for prot warrior madness at the end and the horrible state of death knights that season, only one single deathknight worldwide managed to get r1.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 03:19 PM

S2 best season.

Every healer with a dispel is god damn retarded.

Whenever blizzard gets CLOSE to balance, they go and add a whole bunch of shit, try to rebalance, and completely fuck everything. The cycle of patches.

I think if Blizzard wanted to balance arena they could, however, they probably won't. I honestly think their biggest mistake was switching focus from 2v2 to 3v3. HEALER DPS VS HEALER DPS SHOULD NOT RESULT IN A DRAW. I'm also pretty sure they said their focus this expansion was shifting away from 3v3 and was now on Rbgs.

Cataclysm gods, help us all.
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 03:25 PM

why do people keep making these posts like it really matters ?
J to the E to the W

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 03:26 PM

View PostBotoxlady, on 16 May 2011 - 03:25 PM, said:

why do people keep making these posts like it really matters ?

Why do people keep making these posts about these posts?
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 03:50 PM

View PostShadowtwist, on 16 May 2011 - 03:05 PM, said:

S7 was the most balanced outside of beast cleave and late ATC


For dispels I liked Wotlk
Beast Cleave was fine as long as you had current gear after resil change.  

ATC, prot warrior's burst was too high for the ridiculous amount of control they had.  I'll agree there.  Every season has had its problems.

Voted S7/Yes/No.

Edited by Watlok, 16 May 2011 - 03:50 PM.


#11 Vael.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 04:17 PM

The large health pools extend the time to react and lower the skill cap. Longer games also make imbalance more obvious. Arena has become a lot more like 2s, where your comp means a lot. It's more difficult to outplay people with new game mechanics that lower the skill cap, using IBF while stunned being a prime example. Comps like LSD2, KFC, and this new Frost DK/Rogue/Priest crap HARD counter certain comps.

The 3v3 bracket is becoming what the 2s bracket was in BC/WotLK... a comp/countercomp game having little to do with skill level. s7 was the most balanced and competitive season by far. There were so many viable comps.

View PostDuckers, on 09 February 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 04:46 PM

View Posteidolontrance, on 16 May 2011 - 04:17 PM, said:

The large health pools extend the time to react and lower the skill cap. Longer games also make imbalance more obvious. Arena has become a lot more like 2s, where your comp means a lot. It's more difficult to outplay people with new game mechanics that lower the skill cap, using IBF while stunned being a prime example. Comps like LSD2, KFC, and this new Frost DK/Rogue/Priest crap HARD counter certain comps.

The 3v3 bracket is becoming what the 2s bracket was in BC/WotLK... a comp/countercomp game having little to do with skill level. s7 was the most balanced and competitive season by far. There were so many viable comps.

Short games can call for imbalances as well. In certain situations, it might even cause more imbalance to be exact.

WoW Arena has always been a giant meta game of comp. vs. comp. This season isn't any more true to that than the seasons of past.
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View PostXandyn, on 27 May 2012 - 02:39 PM, said:

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 05:21 PM

s5

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 05:32 PM

View PostWosco, on 16 May 2011 - 03:06 PM, said:

I honestly dislike having a Magic dispel and feel like it was a pretty bad idea to give Druids/Shamans it.
The whole dispel system feels awful IMO.

Agreed, but the dispell system as a whole has improved, no more spam purging/dispelling without consequence

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 05:45 PM

In PvP gear? Season 8/Yes/No

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 06:11 PM

View PostRedefined, on 16 May 2011 - 04:46 PM, said:

WoW Arena has always been a giant meta game of comp. vs. comp. This season isn't any more true to that than the seasons of past.

Comp in 3s has never been as big of a determining factor.

View PostDuckers, on 09 February 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 06:19 PM

View Posteidolontrance, on 16 May 2011 - 06:11 PM, said:

Comp in 3s has never been as big of a determining factor.

Always has been, always will be.
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I've never seen Redefined post anything dumb. +1

View PostXandyn, on 27 May 2012 - 02:39 PM, said:

best Rogue on US

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 06:23 PM

cata dispel system complete shit, cata terrible in general.


best time skillwise for a rogue? s8

funnest time for a rogue? s3

most balanced? probably s2 (never played s7)

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 06:28 PM

S7 was the best season.

If it wasn't for SL/SL in S2 I probably would have said S2. Melee scaled out of control in S3/S4 with ARP gear.

PvE trinkets and gear pretty much ruined S8
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Posted 16 May 2011 - 06:29 PM

View Postdusknoir_, on 16 May 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

the removal of dispel protection and nerfing offensive dispels were good changes; shifting dispels from ret, shadow and warlocks to shaman  and druids, was the stupidest, most unnecessary change this game has ever seen.

oh, and trash buffs still exist

really i don't know how anybody likes this dispel system.

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I FUCKING HATE TALBADAR SO MUCH.




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