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#41 Redefined

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 05:37 PM

I don't know. I watched Mayo stream playing with Nadagast and Talbadar and SP's seemed fine. Good burst, decent off healing, utility like grip and shields, plus a few critical MD's. Judging by the stream alone, I wouldn't call Shadow Priest's "dead" at all.
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 05:55 PM

I don't know. I watched Mayo stream playing with Nadagast and Talbadar and SP's seemed fine. Good burst, decent off healing, utility like grip and shields, plus a few critical MD's. Judging by the stream alone, I wouldn't call Shadow Priest's "dead" at all.


According to their armory they played 1 game. Am I missing something here?

http://us.battle.net...3v3/never lose/

Edited by LowDeeps, 27 April 2011 - 05:59 PM.

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:03 PM

According to their armory they played 1 game. Am I missing something here?

http://us.battle.net...3v3/never lose/


THEY DID ALL THAT IN ONE GAME SHADOW SO OP NERF NOW
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:04 PM

According to their armory they played 1 game. Am I missing something here?

http://us.battle.net...3v3/never lose/


It's called war games, man. I didn't just make that story up.
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:05 PM

I just made that story up.


Sounds reasonable.
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:08 PM

It's almost like you want shadow to be bad.

Honestly, if you can't succeed with shadow in this patch, you probably didn't deserve to succeed in the first place.

Talbadar seemed to have great success last night, and my team had pretty promising results against some of the best comps in 4.1. I'm looking forward to this patch.

Edited by GLopez, 27 April 2011 - 06:11 PM.

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:11 PM

It's almost like you want shadow to be bad.

Honestly, if you can't succeed with shadow in this patch, you probably didn't deserve to succeed in the first place.


Technically it would be even easier to succeed as Shadow now due to less abilities needed to be used in arena.

Then again some Shadowpriests didn't know how to do DMG but could spam their dispel macro last patch, so we'll see.

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:11 PM

It's almost like you want shadow to be bad.

Honestly, if you can't succeed with shadow in this patch, you probably didn't deserve to succeed in the first place.


What does liberty cleave stand for?

Edited by abrahm, 27 April 2011 - 06:11 PM.

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:12 PM

Sounds reasonable.


What? You need multiple people from the 500+ who watched last night to confirm what I said?

Sounds to me like you can't cope with your spec losing dispel, even though they appear to be fine without it. Every post you've ever made has been you in tears, blindly defending this, disregarding everyone elses thoughts and experiences. When will you take a day off?
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:14 PM

Then again some Shadowpriests doidn't know how to do DMG but could spam their dispel macro last patch, so we'll see.

You would be surprised at how much this is true with shadow priests that succeeded last patch. I think the reason a lot of shadow priests don't know the power of their single-target damage is because they were used to falling back on dispel as a crutch for not doing good damage.


What does liberty cleave stand for?

Death knight / mage / healer. It's a pretty good comp, but we couldn't seem to find a way to crack Azael's RLS with it.
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:16 PM

It's almost like you want shadow to be bad.

Honestly, if you can't succeed with shadow in this patch, you probably didn't deserve to succeed in the first place.

Talbadar seemed to have great success last night, and my team had pretty promising results against some of the best comps in 4.1. I'm looking forward to this patch.


Your team went 12-14.
Talbadar played 1 game and stopped.

If you think it's fine, que more games tonight. I wouldn't mind moving up another spot in the rankings.
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:29 PM

Man, you are in denial.

Again, we run many comps. Our Unholyplay was actually the most successful comp we ran last night.

In fact, the takeaway from last night is that we should run Unholyplay even more.

Also, I'm starting to think that restoration druids are not viable at high-level play without a shadow priest just because the shadow priest's defensive utility makes up for the restoration druid's poor healing output.

Edited by GLopez, 27 April 2011 - 06:31 PM.

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:31 PM

Your team went 12-14.
Talbadar played 1 game and stopped.

If you think it's fine, que more games tonight. I wouldn't mind moving up another spot in the rankings.


Are you just trolling at this point or are retarded and can't read? Talbadar played games for a pretty long while last night. Again, WAR GAMES against Venruki, TLoin's Priest, Reckful (RMP) and then more against Opi's RLS.

SP's aren't "dead" ffs. Not even close.
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:34 PM

class looks decent when playing with reckful and drmayo = viable class

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 06:34 PM

Your team went 12-14.
Talbadar played 1 game and stopped.

If you think it's fine, que more games tonight. I wouldn't mind moving up another spot in the rankings.

he's already explained why he went 12-14, if you can't grasp the concept of what happens when you que into something you can't beat his team is a good example, hopefully once these ques get going again once everything is fixed ratings get inflated to bump your dumbass into quing so then you can qq about how bad shadow is some more
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 07:35 PM

shadow is ok, dont overreact

the single offensive dispel feels so gay though

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and I'm not trying to be that guy who's like "hey I can make it work everyone else just sucks heheheheheheh", I'm being completely honest, playing this game now is much more FUN now that I get 2 min queues TOPS with high mmr and people cant SPAM DISPEL my dots. Now that my dots are sticking I'm doing way more DPS, my partner even asked me if I received a damage buff in this patch.

No damage buff, my dots just arent being spam dispelled, I actually have globals to do other shit now. It feels like a different game and I like it, and the fact that we can still MD people out of stuff is pretty amazing tbh, we basically kept dispel but cant spam it.

Shadow isn't terrible, cheer up everyone.

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 08:10 PM

shadow is ok, dont overreact

the single offensive dispel feels so gay though

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and I'm not trying to be that guy who's like "hey I can make it work everyone else just sucks heheheheheheh", I'm being completely honest, playing this game now is much more FUN now that I get 2 min queues TOPS with high mmr and people cant SPAM DISPEL my dots. Now that my dots are sticking I'm doing way more DPS, my partner even asked me if I received a damage buff in this patch.

No damage buff, my dots just arent being spam dispelled, I actually have globals to do other shit now. It feels like a different game and I like it, and the fact that we can still MD people out of stuff is pretty amazing tbh, we basically kept dispel but cant spam it.

Shadow isn't terrible, cheer up everyone.

I agree with all of this.
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:08 PM

I like this patch, I roll with double dps trinkets and spam dmg while my lock hero partner makes my dots undispellable. fun times
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:18 PM

What? You need multiple people from the 500+ who watched last night to confirm what I said?

Sounds to me like you can't cope with your spec losing dispel, even though they appear to be fine without it. Every post you've ever made has been you in tears, blindly defending this, disregarding everyone elses thoughts and experiences. When will you take a day off?


Not that I think anything lowdeeps ever says is worth responding to, but I don't want any other idiots believing him since the team has only queued once.
War games did happen. I didn't watch them all, but it was pretty ridiculous. Comp was extremely good.

Also I like how lowdeeps doesn't point out the fact that they won that 1 game they queued on the team. Which was against a mirror with a shaman healer.
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 10:10 PM

Notice how everyone that says shadow is fine is playing with a warlock now (i.e. getting carried by fine dispel protection and fine damage).

Good for you, but that doesn't make the spec fine.

Edited by Absolewt, 27 April 2011 - 10:11 PM.

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