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#1 Open

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 07:05 AM

"To be or not to be that is the question"

Frost is amazing currently - I do think that many other classes put out comparable dmg such as warrior/Fmages/ MM, BM hunters/ rogues, Spriests and rets - but it seems that due to the fact that frost was the underdog for quite a while and it has had its chance to shine alot of focus is on it, and there's ALOT of QQing on wow forums......

So my question is this - is our damage really that unfair?
If a nerf goes through do we speculate that mastery or the recent oblit, or rune changes will be nerfed?

Personally, this is the most fun I have had this season. Unholy is good but I prefer the playstyle of frost, and not depending on my pet so much.
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#2 Kykinn

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 08:08 AM

How long did they let warriors go?

But in all seriousness I'm not sure how Frost will be tampered with in the next coming weeks, The damage is about the same as warriors pre 4.1 mixed with strangulate and hungering cold its lethal.

I will agree its pretty fun to play something other than unholy for a change.

Edited by Kykinn, 27 April 2011 - 08:10 AM.

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#3 Elliahna

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 08:20 AM

The damage is about the same as most other dps that are free. In my opinion it is a tad high. Realistically though, the damage nerf if it did go through wouldn't be that huge. Frost would still be strong.
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#4 ferz

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 08:24 AM

the damage is crazy good, but it's nowhere near what warriors were
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 08:28 AM

the damage is crazy good, but it's nowhere near what warriors were

I guess i exaggerated a tad but none the less when i see back to back 20k's on my screen its something to take a second glance at.
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#6 Elliahna

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 08:39 AM

It doesn't matter. You can't compare it to last patch because warriors had more burst. Frost damage is great, the burst isnt a global risk. I still get out damaged by good warriors in arena.
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#7 Xelithras

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 08:44 AM

hopefully frost will be nerfed to the ground




trash spec
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 08:51 AM

So is it better to actully go for mastery instead of haste now?
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 08:51 AM

hopefully frost will be nerfed to the ground




trash spec

As opposed to spam necrotic spec. gtfo Unholy is boring as hell.
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 08:51 AM

You guys really aren't having trouble v frost mage teams as frost DKs? I qd like 40 games tonight and i shit you not, two of the teams(4 games total) didn't have a mage on them.

(I was unholy - i'm legitimately asking you, not being facetious)

Edited by Zander, 27 April 2011 - 08:52 AM.

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#11 Elliahna

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 08:51 AM

So is it better to actully go for mastery instead of haste now?

I would say yes
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:15 AM

I doubt it will get nerfed.

But yes, mastery is better.
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#13 Elliahna

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:17 AM

I doubt it will get nerfed.

But yes, mastery is better.

Lopez you barely squeaked out a win tonight : / My druid broke hung cold ftl : /
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:21 AM

Oh, were you the Ebola Cleave? Good match. :)

We were fucking around so much tonight. We spam queued into Azael's RLS as Liberty Cleave for practice and tanked like 60 points against him. We also messed around with frost spec a bit, but I didn't have much fun with it and I was a bit shaky with it.

Arena seems pretty fun with all the balance changes and cross-battlegroup queueing, though. Queues should be great during prime time after all the bugs are ironed out.

Also, I have to say that Unholyplay still seems good. We were beating a lot of top-tier comps — LSD, Ebola Cleave, WLS — with it.

Edited by GLopez, 27 April 2011 - 09:22 AM.

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:27 AM

Oh, were you the Ebola Cleave? Good match. :)

We were fucking around so much tonight. We spam queued into Azael's RLS as Liberty Cleave for practice and tanked like 60 points against him. We also messed around with frost spec a bit, but I didn't have much fun with it and I was a bit shaky with it.

Arena seems pretty fun with all the balance changes and cross-battlegroup queueing, though. Queues should be great during prime time after all the bugs are ironed out.

Also, I have to say that Unholyplay still seems good. We were beating a lot of top-tier comps — LSD, Ebola Cleave, WLS — with it.

Good games tonight as well, you think the ratings will get rolled back because the games we won against you bugged out and gave no rating where as losses didn't do anything either.
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:30 AM

Yeah, good games.

I have no idea if there will be a rollback. I'm pretty sure the actual rating issue got fixed by now, because my team's last 20 or so matches counted, so if they're going to do a rollback, it will probably be tonight.

Edited by GLopez, 27 April 2011 - 09:31 AM.

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#17 Elliahna

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:32 AM

I am loving arena now. Warriors cant mash win anymore. Everything seems more skillful. I am extremely surprised blizzard actually balanced a lot of things out. Did you face any shaman teams that dropped split totem? We rolled a couple with hard switches right when totem dropped :lol: , I think its funny that they dont know how to use it yet.
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:35 AM

Yeah, good games.

I have no idea if there will be a rollback. I'm pretty sure the actual rating issue got fixed by now, because my team's last 20 or so matches counted, so if they're going to do a rollback, it will probably be tonight.


Just seems like the MMR inflation is really high. Saw a few teams with their mmr above 3100-3200 maybe thats normal with considering who the players actually were. Also the ratings were updated but statistics were not so could that imply that they might be doing a roll back?
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:36 AM

I am loving arena now. Warriors cant mash win anymore. Everything seems more skillful. I am extremely surprised blizzard actually balanced a lot of things out. Did you face any shaman teams that dropped split totem? We rolled a couple with hard switches right when totem dropped :lol: , I think its funny that they dont know how to use it yet.

Yeah, I think people blew that totem out of proportion. None of my teams had any trouble working around it tonight.

It does seem like it's a lot more balanced now. Warriors and rogues still do high damage, but none of it seems absurd or impossible to manage.


Just seems like the MMR inflation is really high. Saw a few teams with their mmr above 3100-3200 maybe thats normal with considering who the players actually were. Also the ratings were updated but statistics were not so could that imply that they might be doing a roll back?

Some players are probably going to inflate to that MMR naturally just because of more high-rated queues.

But I do hope it's rolled back just so there's a fair slate. Some people who got high MMR and ratings today probably did not deserve it.

Edited by GLopez, 27 April 2011 - 09:38 AM.

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#20 Elliahna

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Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:39 AM

Personal MMR is bugged if anything. I trashed my mmr helping friends and mine isn't scaling proportionally. IE teamates have 2700 mmr, we win a game against a 2600 mmr team, they gain 20 i gain 20 even though my mmr says 2300.
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