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#161 Notarztin

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 12:49 AM

Dks are so op its not even fair anymore seriously blizz fix that shit
Desecration on necrotic strike is insane. The opposing team is gonna feel like they are playing in tsjernobyl.

#162 Champ

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 04:01 AM

Some of the stupidity in this thread amazes me

Edited by Champ, 19 April 2011 - 04:05 AM.


#163 Hawtdawye

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 07:35 AM

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Dks are so op its not even fair anymore seriously blizz fix that shit

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#164 YuckFooo

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 07:38 AM

Evry class is op at some point... I dont mean after patches and shit i mean in diff situtations...
DKs utility is op as fuck. And they're annoying as fuck too.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 02:52 PM

i love my class :(

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 03:03 PM

Dks are extremely fucking annoying, but in all fairness, the game as it is isn't too bad right now.

Yes, there are KFCs but at least it's only 1( 2 depending on whom you ask) overpoweredly retarded comps right now.
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 03:06 PM

Take the casting debuff off of nec strike and increase the cd on Ams and i wouldnt have any problems with dk's anymore.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 03:10 PM

agreed necrotic isnt terrible even though ive checked atrox and seen dks literally only use that but without the cassting debuff and ams CD dks would be fine

#169 Darrgen

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 05:03 PM

View Postvitaminz, on 20 April 2011 - 03:10 PM, said:

agreed necrotic isnt terrible even though ive checked atrox and seen dks literally only use that but without the cassting debuff and ams CD dks would be fine
I think if you took away necrotic debuff it wouldnt be useful. Thus an ability that is already entirely useless in pve also becomes useless in pvp. Ams however does need a nerf. 5 second duration with a base 1 min cooldown but maybe with a glyph make it take 7 seconds off. I think that would be entirely fair. If you wanted to nerf necrotic you could make the cast speed debuff 20% or something.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 07:25 PM

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If you wanted to nerf necrotic you could make the cast speed debuff 20% or something.

that would require you to nerf other cast time debuffs

#171 yarubi

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 07:29 PM

View Postcydial, on 20 April 2011 - 03:03 PM, said:



Yes, there are KFCs but at least it's only 1( 2 depending on whom you ask) overpoweredly retarded comps right now.

dont forget rmp/lsd dude!

#172 Chromix

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 07:39 PM

DKs are nothing but annoying as fuck, apu.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 07:42 PM

View PostDarrgen, on 20 April 2011 - 05:03 PM, said:

I think if you took away necrotic debuff it wouldnt be useful. Thus an ability that is already entirely useless in pve also becomes useless in pvp. Ams however does need a nerf. 5 second duration with a base 1 min cooldown but maybe with a glyph make it take 7 seconds off. I think that would be entirely fair. If you wanted to nerf necrotic you could make the cast speed debuff 20% or something.

I dont think it would be useless if they took the casting debuff away. It still does dmg, absorbs healing, and lays down desecration. Considering all the ways a dk can stop a caster/healer from casting I think that it would be fine.

#174 Raikufail

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 07:51 PM

Just increase the Cd on AMS and nerf the self healing.

Edited by Raikufail, 20 April 2011 - 07:53 PM.


#175 Athená

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 07:58 PM

DKs are only annoying to face as a caster, nothing more.
They can make a mage's life a living hell, but nothing more.
Tell me this, when is the last time you lost to a team with a dk? (Excluding teams carried by warr/ret dmg...)
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 08:04 PM

View PostAthená, on 20 April 2011 - 07:58 PM, said:

DKs are only annoying to face as a caster, nothing more.
They can make a mage's life a living hell, but nothing more.
Tell me this, when is the last time you lost to a team with a dk? (Excluding teams carried by warr/ret dmg...)

Dk is in a good state atm, even if carried by warr /ret damage TSG and Ret dk with either shaman or priest, both of those comps are top comps. Same goes for Sp dk druid

Edited by Raikufail, 20 April 2011 - 08:04 PM.


#177 Darrgen

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:33 PM

View PostNumbtoes, on 20 April 2011 - 07:42 PM, said:

I dont think it would be useless if they took the casting debuff away. It still does dmg, absorbs healing, and lays down desecration. Considering all the ways a dk can stop a caster/healer from casting I think that it would be fine.
Why would anyone use necrotic over scourge strike if it didn't cast speed debuff, the absorb cannot crit and the actual damage portion only does around 3k. the crit on 3k would be far too weak. scourge strike on the other hand would crit far better. (Scourge is roughly = necrotic in damage with absorb calculated in)

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:48 PM

View PostAthená, on 20 April 2011 - 07:58 PM, said:

DKs are only annoying to face as a caster, nothing more.
They can make a mage's life a living hell, but nothing more.
Tell me this, when is the last time you lost to a team with a dk? (Excluding teams carried by warr/ret dmg...)
Shadowcleave with a restoration shaman, Unholyplay, Liberty Cleave, TSG and Yin-Yang Cleave are all top-tier comps.

#179 Thricton

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:51 PM

View PostGLopez, on 20 April 2011 - 09:48 PM, said:

Shadowcleave with a restoration shaman, Unholyplay, Liberty Cleave, TSG and Yin-Yang Cleave are all top-tier comps.

I will end your life.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:53 PM

View PostGLopez, on 20 April 2011 - 09:48 PM, said:

Shadowcleave with a restoration shaman, Unholyplay, Liberty Cleave, TSG and Yin-Yang Cleave are all top-tier comps.

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