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#181 Kelarm

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 09:39 AM

View Postsunzzzz, on 29 March 2011 - 08:29 AM, said:

BUFF SHAMANS!

They're about to, sir.

View PostEowynnz, on 29 March 2011 - 09:09 AM, said:

Except Grace is a buff which stacks from all of the priests healing spells, and doesn't cost additional mana to cast. Stop spouting out shit which is completely irrelevant. Yes our heals heal too much, but comparing them to other heals is just stupid. You can't reduce Shamans healing output to the level of priests, as Shamans are missing an ability to easier get off their heals (Inner focus).

Lol.  Saying something like this is WAY dumber than comparing the healing output numbers of the four healing classes.  Just to point out a couple of example of why that is, one could just as easily say that shamans have ghost wolf, spiritwalker's grace, and grounding totem to easier get off their heals.

Edited by Kelarm, 29 March 2011 - 09:47 AM.

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#182 Eowynnz

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 09:44 AM

View PostKelarm, on 29 March 2011 - 09:39 AM, said:

Lol.  Saying something like this is WAY dumber than comparing the healing output numbers of the four healing classes.
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#183 Zandire

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 09:46 AM

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You can't reduce Shamans healing output to the level of priests, as Shamans are missing an ability to easier get off their heals (Inner focus).

Then you'll have to settle with no Ghost Wolf or Wind Shear. Sorry.
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#184 Kunuxx

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 10:20 AM

View PostNagamash, on 29 March 2011 - 06:59 AM, said:

Most likley you can do that with UW > Shock (with talent) > earthshield > heal yourself

thats 4 gcd's "RESTO SHAMANS CAN BRING SOME1 FROM 1 TO 80% IN ONE GCD", fucking retarded ppl claming retarded stuff...
i actually didnt even unleash, it was just shock -> ns ghw, takes exactly 2 globals.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 11:07 AM

View PostCutcut, on 27 March 2011 - 01:16 PM, said:

Shamans are a joke vs spellcasters, melee fucks them up :)Its a reason why MLS and Shatterplay is way worse than MLD and Shattreeplay, shamans are way worse healers vs melee cleaves than druids and shamans are way better healers vs spellcleaves. Also shamans actually have to cast to heal, which makes them vulnerable to interrupters. Im not trying to deffend shamans or anything, cuz really vs spellcasters they are a joke. But currently on my BG there is nothing but melee cleaves queing, and when I played shatterplay I would have played a druid instead if I had one :)
Note: my main is a warlock ;)

I actually think Shamans are better healers against melee cleaves by a large margin.

I also think that MLS is a lot better than MLD.

Edited by Filovirus, 29 March 2011 - 11:07 AM.


#186 Kunuxx

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 11:49 AM

View PostTankz, on 29 March 2011 - 06:54 AM, said:

just as annoying as when the enemy survives at 1.2k hp.

happened twice yesterday, fml.
and almost as annoying as two healers burned to exactly 0 mana surviving over minute while standing in open field.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 11:51 AM

View PostKunuxx, on 29 March 2011 - 11:49 AM, said:

and almost as annoying as two healers burned to exactly 0 mana surviving over minute while standing in open field.

but they would never had run oom if the priest died at 1200 hp!
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Posted 29 March 2011 - 11:52 AM

^ is exactly correct, and it's funny how shamans think the other healers are better healing against cleave, lmao.


one thing should be said though; both sides agrees that shamans need nerf. And I don't think they should get nerfed to the GROUND - but the thing is atm, shamans are so high up they can't even see the ground compared to the other healers right now. Take them to a decent level - to around the other healing classes. The fact that shamans deserves a nerf doesn't mean they should be the worst healer - but be tuned down.

and to the other guy who responded to my "rage" post: no but the fact that the guy havnt played a healer before, shows how friendly shaman healers are, they don't even need to shock/hex to get high anymore - which suppousedly is the "core" of shaman healers.
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Posted 29 March 2011 - 12:28 PM

View PostFilovirus, on 29 March 2011 - 11:07 AM, said:

I actually think Shamans are better healers against melee cleaves by a large margin.
Yeah I don't get this either. Sure a Shaman gets raped when trained, but you'd have to have mouth breathing retards for partners who don't know anything about peeling to let that happen.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 12:47 PM

or your shaman is doing retarded kiting.
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Posted 29 March 2011 - 12:53 PM

whats worse is they are getting buffed lol what a joke

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 01:24 PM

About time resto shammys had an op season

Just like the other healers!

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 02:14 PM

It's pretty clear that shamans are the best healer right now, but while playing arena on all of my characters, I've never really cared which healer we play against. Definitely not enough of a problem to whine on forums about.

<-- plays with shaman

Edited by Ctuhlu, 29 March 2011 - 02:14 PM.

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we have to switch to them making the decision to pop reck or not to pop reck

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 02:29 PM

View PostCtuhlu, on 29 March 2011 - 02:14 PM, said:

It's pretty clear that shamans are the best healer right now, but while playing arena on all of my characters, I've never really cared which healer we play against. Definitely not enough of a problem to whine on forums about.

<-- plays with shaman

Well you're playing moonkin warlock restoshaman, obviously no healer will be a "problem".
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Posted 29 March 2011 - 02:36 PM

the buffs are not enough

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 04:26 PM

View PostEycore, on 29 March 2011 - 01:24 PM, said:

About time resto shammys had an op season

Just like the other healers!

:lol:

like they've EVER been bad...

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 05:02 PM

View PostReliuna, on 29 March 2011 - 02:29 PM, said:

Well you're playing moonkin warlock restoshaman, obviously no healer will be a "problem".

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I don't care what healer the other team has on any class I play, as stated in my original post.

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we have to switch to them making the decision to pop reck or not to pop reck

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 05:13 PM

View PostCtuhlu, on 29 March 2011 - 02:14 PM, said:

It's pretty clear that shamans are the best healer right now, but while playing arena on all of my characters, I've never really cared which healer we play against. Definitely not enough of a problem to whine on forums about.

<-- plays with shaman
Basically this. Even when I play terrible scleave on my paladin I would rather play against a resto shaman than any other healer. Shamans cant do anything but shock and try to hex, against priest teams I have to run from the priest all game in a futile attempt to not get feared on cd, and against druid teams I have to always be losing the druid chasing me with cyclones. Certain comps are just incredibly strong with resto shamans, but thats mostly because of the control they bring along with every class having too much instant cc, those comps also tend to work with other healers just fine.

The simplest thing they could do to fix shaman healing is revert the 15% healing buff or make it only function in pve, and nerf cleansing waters. Not adding spirit link totem in its ridiculous broken state would be cool too but that isnt likely knowing blizzard.

Edited by Dragonlol, 29 March 2011 - 05:14 PM.


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Posted 29 March 2011 - 05:41 PM

View PostCtuhlu, on 29 March 2011 - 02:14 PM, said:

It's pretty clear that shamans are the best healer right now, but while playing arena on all of my characters, I've never really cared which healer we play against. Definitely not enough of a problem to whine on forums about.

<-- plays with shaman

LSD 2.0 is like KFC in that it doesn't matter what healer you're with.

Edited by cydial, 29 March 2011 - 05:41 PM.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 06:01 PM

View Postpheqqu, on 29 March 2011 - 04:26 PM, said:

like they've EVER been bad...


their survivability has always been




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