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#41 Caulktok

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 08:46 AM

Fought a 2600 RMP as Scleave with shaman healer, their strat?

Sap DK, mage invises and runs on top of shaman, puts ring of frost down, roots DK and they tunnel the shaman endlessly. Fearward on an undead priest + counterspell on me + an undead shadowstep rogue, there was LITERALLY NOTHING we could do to stop it.

I am spam fearing the whole match minus getting CS'd but eating roots along with my DK partner and honestly just not being able to peel enough. We tried sitting mage peeling rogue, didn't work, DK rooted. We tried sitting rogue, didn't work (dumb idea). We have ruthlessly tanked since this patch hit lol.

So scleave with a shaman doesnt really counter the good RMP's, maybe my shaman was having an off day I don't know, but I do know he was getting shit on vs a virtually unpeelable team while their CD's are up, which last just long enough for the shaman to die.


Fear ward, Ice block, 2 WOTF's, CS on me, Blind on me, endless roots on DK and I, Sap on DK, this is just a team to simply not que up against.
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#42 Ghazuk

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 10:56 AM

yea sapping is so fucking huge :( against 1 rmp i just did start right away with unholy frenzy on me to get out of sap and got the rogue out of stealth :P
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#43 thezftw

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 12:35 PM

I have SP in my team instead of lock but we had some success with priest going priest and me going mage, just to stop damage and excessive cc. UF blinds. Granted they're only 2,4k teams.

Dark sim is awesome if you can hit sheeps/fears/rof.

Edited by thezftw, 16 February 2011 - 12:37 PM.

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#44 madbomberz

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 12:49 PM

with a shadowpriest its fuck easy talked with some top dks that plays it and what they do is sit on the mage and all the priest does is dot up and spam dispel on the mage while the dk solos the mage GG :)

Dunno about some dks saying they are raping mages well that mages must be noobs then cause a good mage is like unkillable they will just use perfect CC on you and your pretty much screwed all game long

Edited by madbomberz, 16 February 2011 - 12:50 PM.

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#45 thezftw

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 01:12 PM

Nah priest doesn't have to dispel mage when there is a shaman in the team :3

Priest is awesome healer when they can focus on 1 target but when you pressure 2 they become gimped, especially with 2 def/offensive dispels in your team.

This said my setup has little to do with real shadowcleaves.

Edited by thezftw, 16 February 2011 - 01:13 PM.

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#46 Idgit

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 01:51 PM

When I first posted here I thought it was the 3v3 forum. Now I see it's the DK forum and therefore, massively biased.

You guys are smoking crack if you don't think shadowcleave shits on RMP.
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Posted 16 February 2011 - 02:30 PM

and you smoke crack if you think its diffrent, the only chance is to shit on the priest, and this won´t happen vs any decent team
or tell us how you lose to shadowcleave, and don´t come with shit like "not gonna spoil so you noobs gonna shit on rmp too"



people here were looking for help as shadowcleave vs rmp, and all you did was stupid "lol shadowcleave shits on rmp", no advice ... nothing
so pls, be constructive or stfu and get out of here, thx ....

Edited by Smir, 16 February 2011 - 02:31 PM.

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#48 Athená

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 02:52 PM

When I first posted here I thought it was the 3v3 forum. Now I see it's the DK forum and therefore, massively biased.

You guys are smoking crack if you don't think shadowcleave shits on RMP.


Shaman v. yes.
Paladin v. god no.
Druid v. learn to dispel hots on dk and win.
If youre losing to all shadowcleaves, well then... youre just shit :)

Edited by Athená, 16 February 2011 - 02:52 PM.

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 03:14 PM

obv he loses to scleave so therefor its a counter = = D
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#50 Gowan

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 03:19 PM

when has shadowcleave ever countered rmp?
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Posted 16 February 2011 - 03:20 PM

So you guys just skilled your way to those rating huh? Impressive, teach me.


http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/pvp/arena/cyclone-wirbelsturm/3v3


There is nothing like this on any US BG. Props to the EUs for learning how to beat their counters. :deathknight: :warlock:
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Posted 16 February 2011 - 03:24 PM

What is this, I don't even ...

Scleave with pala sucks ass, especially if your pala is playing bad and your warlock never even tries to fake interrupts.

You have higher chance as a druid tho, perhaps on Blade's Edge or Dalaran where your warlock can abuse tps and if the RMP rogue isn't human with double pve trinkets :>

Edited by didorins, 16 February 2011 - 03:27 PM.

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#53 Entarion

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 03:26 PM

when has shadowcleave ever countered rmp?

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 03:32 PM

So you guys just skilled your way to those rating huh? Impressive, teach me.




There is nothing like this on any US BG. Props to the EUs for learning how to beat their counters. :deathknight: :warlock:

wow, now you start the us<->eu bullshit

Edited by Smir, 16 February 2011 - 03:37 PM.

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#55 Idgit

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 03:34 PM

Pretty sure I congratulated the EU RMPs on beating their counters. I don't see any US>EU in that.

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#56 Athená

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 03:35 PM

So you guys just skilled your way to those rating huh? Impressive, teach me.




There is nothing like this on any US BG. Props to the EUs for learning how to beat their counters. :deathknight: :warlock:


To which version of shadowcleave are you losing then? Maybe you should actually state your problem instead of moaning about a setup.
So, of which version of scleave do you lose?

PS iirc nobodyseven is rank 2 as rmp?

Edited by Athená, 16 February 2011 - 03:36 PM.

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 03:39 PM

Nobodyseven has been r1 before. Scleave is prob holding him back atm.
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Posted 16 February 2011 - 03:43 PM

cr4p troll move along
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#59 Athená

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 03:47 PM

Youre one to speak about bias man, dear me. But sure keep crying about a setup and not giving us anything to work with in order to help you and ourselves to improve. If youre having such hard time as rmp at its current state vs paladin shadowcleave it might be time to reconsider playing it at all.
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#60 Idgit

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Posted 16 February 2011 - 03:50 PM

Tbh I don't need advice from anyone who can't beat a comp they hard counter. It doesn't suprise me that people disagree here. After all it is the :deathknight: forum :rolleyes:


And I'm referring to :druid::deathknight::warlock: anyway.
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