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#1 cameronlol

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 03:26 AM

Do you guys think any other changes will happen to elemental before the patch is released?

As it stands, once the patch goes live, you will never see an elemental shaman over 2k rating as the spec will arguably be the most underpowered in the game.

Im confused as to how blizzard is fine with this, as many other classes who are doing fine in arena (eg. holy paladin) received buffs, and this terrible spec got totally raped by nerfs...
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 03:29 AM

It already is arguably the worst spec in the game atm. Playing ele/disc/rogue / ele/druid/rogue and being unable to pass 2400 is not fun.
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#3 Najagiwanda

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 03:55 AM

playing warrior/ele/holypal and unable to pass 2200 is not fun.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 04:00 AM

sounds like ur getting outplayd man
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 04:01 AM

Do you guys think any other changes will happen to elemental before the patch is released?

As it stands, once the patch goes live, you will never see an elemental shaman over 2k rating as the spec will arguably be the most underpowered in the game.

Im confused as to how blizzard is fine with this, as many other classes who are doing fine in arena (eg. holy paladin) received buffs, and this terrible spec got totally raped by nerfs...


blizzard balances around pve, this should not be new to a multi time glad
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#6 cameronlol

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 04:07 AM

sounds like ur getting outplayd man


im playing resto, so not really.


also im im pretty sure ele is doing poorly in raids (not sure though)
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 04:10 AM

Moonkin are in the same boat really.. Honestly, if you have at least 2 viable specs for arena, thats pretty good I'd say. Some classes don't even have that much.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 04:13 AM

Hi, y i no can heal
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 04:47 AM

Moonkin are in the same boat really.. Honestly, if you have at least 2 viable specs for arena, thats pretty good I'd say. Some classes don't even have that much.





>Implying shamans will have 2 useful specs after patch.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 07:05 AM

I highly doubt ele will be viable at all this season.
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#11 Pitiless

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 07:10 AM

>Implying shamans will have 2 useful specs after patch.


I hope you aren't implying that shamans won't.

Ele does need some love tho
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 07:12 AM

ele shaman burst was totaly retarded and it was pretty much what carried the spec

i mean look now, they have the same kind of abilitys, not much changed (exactly the same for other classes) but ele shamans burst isnt just 1shotting people anymore.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 07:17 AM

I hope you aren't implying that shamans won't.

Ele does need some love tho





You honestly think any spec other than enhancement will be worth a damn after the patch?

Sure it'll still be viable, for shamans who are very good at the class, but for the other 95% they will all be screwed, as the class is only becoming harder and harder to play
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 07:24 AM

ele shaman burst was totaly retarded and it was pretty much what carried the spec

i mean look now, they have the same kind of abilitys, not much changed (exactly the same for other classes) but ele shamans burst isnt just 1shotting people anymore.



They go oom in 3 casts unlike wotlk

they don't have 30% reduction on stuns like in wotlk

they are way worse than in wotlk
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 07:24 AM

ele shaman burst was totaly retarded and it was pretty much what carried the spec

i mean look now, they have the same kind of abilitys, not much changed (exactly the same for other classes) but ele shamans burst isnt just 1shotting people anymore.


Incorrect, the low rated ele shamans were carried by the burst (and higher rated ones to a certain extent), but what really made them shine was the ability to do so much off-healing and rarely go oom. Whereas now the spec is basically dead because healing is so terrible atm for hybrid classes compared to how it was in wotlk.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 07:32 AM

Incorrect, the low rated ele shamans were carried by the burst (and higher rated ones to a certain extent), but what really made them shine was the ability to do so much off-healing and rarely go oom. Whereas now the spec is basically dead because healing is so terrible atm for hybrid classes compared to how it was in wotlk.


This to an extent, but unlike shadowpriests, we can oom easily without offhealing at all. Turreting with lust up will bring us to 70% mana in less than 10 seconds, and we have no way to get that mana back.
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#17 Flaxig

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 08:11 AM

Long story short, we can't offheal so we are essentially a really bad mage.

With no survivability cooldowns.

.. and no spammable CC.

... and way less damage.

.... and less mobility/control.

..... and far worse mana efficiency.

So basically, any comp that could have an elemental shaman in it, it would be way better just to have a mage.

Even a comp such as healer/mage/ele, I would say without a doubt that healer/mage/mage would get a hell of a lot higher.
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 09:15 AM

ele shaman burst was totaly retarded and it was pretty much what carried the spec

i mean look now, they have the same kind of abilitys, not much changed (exactly the same for other classes) but ele shamans burst isnt just 1shotting people anymore.


Astral shift + earthbind nerf = huge survivability nerf vs melee

Our mana is as bad as mage mana in BC if not worse.

We cant heal if the game is expecting to go longer than 2 mins

our consistent damage is much lower then any other caster dps

We generally can do fine in wizard mirrors except we will run out of mana.

0 reson to bring an ele over a mage or any other caster dps
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 10:09 AM

are you giving up yet nuvoz say it aint so
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 10:20 AM

Good thing i didn't seen threads like this about moonkins, ferals, spriests etc back in the days

Too many ele in wotlk? :(
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