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#341 Vanguards

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Posted 29 November 2015 - 01:14 AM

View PostMelcornwow, on 29 November 2015 - 01:02 AM, said:

Can anybody say something for season 3? Should we go for 4 piece set bonus. Should we still go for versatility enchantment?

same as last season gearing wise. 2 set bonus, avoid crit multistrike as much as possible
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Posted 03 December 2015 - 03:30 AM

View PostVanguards, on 29 November 2015 - 01:14 AM, said:

same as last season gearing wise. 2 set bonus, avoid crit multistrike as much as possible

thank you for fast answer! i was away on trip. now back to practicing :)

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 10:21 PM

is emp seals worth the damage lost from not having fv + losing the buffed DS procs? also would taking ES make versatility worth much more than mastery? the heal from ES doesnt seem good enough to make me wanna take ES over FV so im basically weighing FV against the haste + ap buffs not to mention losing 2-3 gcds changing seals every ~20 sec to keep them up.

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 03:30 PM

Emp. Seals sure is worth for damage. But it's more worth for surviving.
Cap Haste (incl. hastebuff) at abou 33%  (1 sec GCD) and then stack Versatility and Mastery.
This provides the highest damage. You're still be able to deal a good amount of damage.

Basically, it depends on your enemies.

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Posted 17 December 2015 - 11:58 PM

idk 2% every 3 sec doesnt seem that good to me over its full duration it heals about the same as 1 FoL for me atm. unless you're saying to use the extra run speed to kite away and spam FoLs

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Posted 26 December 2015 - 03:42 PM

I came back to WoW recently after few months break and a lot of people say like Ret is one of worst specs now, but I'm like ehh.. People say that our Sustain damage/Def is kinda bad and I agree with that, so I was wondering how to fix that really fast and with no cost and it was pretty easy.

Sooo... I tested out "Seraphim" talent and it was quite nice and I even liked it, more than clunky Seal Dance. I guess you lose SOJ movement speed and passive heal, but you get other stats, in addition you don't waste GCD and time on keeping buffs up.

Seraphim stat buffs (From passive state/without any procs[PvP active stats]):

Crit: 15.5% -> 24.5%
Haste: 9% -> 20%
Mastery: 60.5% -> 80%
MStrike: 7% -> 22%
Versatility: 28%-> 36%

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You kinda lose 1.5 TV damage (5HP) for 15 sec buff (30sec cd, so 15sec CD only), but most of those stats increase our damage and heal at same time, as well as passive def from Versatilty. With on use-trinket I have  46% Vers atm (so 46% dmg boost/23% def boost).

I haven't done that much testing yet, cuz of holidays but gonna try in 2s as Ret/Heal and I think it should go pretty well.

What are your thoughts on Seraphim?

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 10:06 AM

Seraphim pushes your stats this much:

Crit   9,09%
Haste 11,11%
Mastery   19,61%
Multistrike   15,15%
Versatility 7,69%

According to my experience, Seraphim is only worth using it whith a high amount of Versatility and Mastery. As a non-human, you can keep Versatilty between 15-20% and Mastery over 100% (with enchant).

I've played some BG's with Seraphim, was pretty nice during the short burst-window, but pretty heavy.
In Arenas, i still would pefer Emp. Seals or FV. But it's always a personal choice imo.

I'm playing with 17% Versatilty and 92,28% Mastery. Using FV is pretty awesome, even Emp. Seals is quite nice, because HoW, CS, and even TV will do a heavy amount or holydamage, due to our mastery.
Hitting a mage, lock or priest for (together) 100k is really nice.

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 06:58 PM

Hey, im new to pallys. I was wondering what I could do to improve damage and dps.

Yes still gearing!

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Posted 16 January 2016 - 04:43 PM

Hello, I'm currently gearing a lvl100-boosted-ret and wondering if there's anyone who has a armory link to any BiS geared retridin. Thanks!

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