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#261 Febagy

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Posted 11 December 2014 - 03:05 PM

I haven't time to get legendary ring. Secondly i don't want to waste money buying expensive enchants for blue gear. 10 years holy expirience is enough, don't need any more, lol. Last but not least: cloak, rings and necklace are cheapest items. So you can buy 3 items and you will spend exactly 3750, and then collect 3500 more to get weapon (breaking 7250 barrier).  

p.s. we have rather strange situation with trinkets. As tooltip says rare trinket better than epic (if are talking about passive stats). As i understood epic trinkets have more stats on use / more frequently proc.
I think it's not huge benefit, so we can change them later even if you play only retri.

#262 Gigana

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Posted 11 December 2014 - 03:27 PM

View PostFebagy, on 11 December 2014 - 03:05 PM, said:

I haven't time to get legendary ring.

It's really easy actually. The "hard" part is finishing 5 heroic dungeons. After that it's just an hour or so of LFR each week.

BTW, LFR is somehow even easier in WoD than it was in MoP. Yesterday I queued as a healer, then just went retri and dps-ed. I don't think anyone even died. :D
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Posted 11 December 2014 - 06:38 PM

Retribution Paladin and Enhancement Shaman
  • The PvP 2 set piece bonus now grants 25% reduction in crowd control effects (down from 50%).

That was measureable ;) .

Now revert the FoL-Hitfix, nerf SH and HA ;) .



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Posted 11 December 2014 - 10:07 PM

View PostAnimefreak3K, on 11 December 2014 - 06:38 PM, said:

Now revert the FoL-Hitfix,

Meh, I think it's good FoL got nerfed. It's retarded when a melee class playstyle revolves around pillarhumping and spamming heals that heal for as much as holy heals do. :P
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#265 Speedymart

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 04:17 AM

http://www.wowhead.c...0.865:.765;gb=1


Ret BiS PvP gear - Get the Vers/Mastery pants offpiece
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#266 Animefreak3K

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 12:00 PM

Stats are depending on your Playstyle.

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 10:30 AM

Posted Image Paladin
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    • Retribution Paladin's PvP 2-piece set bonus reducing the duration of incoming crowd control effects can now be dispelled.
Too soon.
curse integration is garbage

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 12:30 PM

View PostInterinside, on 13 December 2014 - 10:30 AM, said:

Posted Image Paladin
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    • Retribution Paladin's PvP 2-piece set bonus reducing the duration of incoming crowd control effects can now be dispelled.
Too soon.
Also:
  • Selfless Healer should now be correctly dispelled instead of dispelling only 1 stack.

They really do want paladins to be totally fucked by dispel. :/
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#269 Animefreak3K

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 03:23 PM

Best fail since Avenging Wrath was dispellable.....wtf is going on?

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 03:30 PM

Rets will get nerfed little by little every week as they are still one of the best specs in pvp atm (let's be honest).
Blizzard trying to 'restore' balance into pvp and such ..

In any case, rets are still in a very good spot!

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Posted 13 December 2014 - 09:28 PM

Hope blizz keeps nerfing rets while frost dks can force a bubble 2 seconds into the arena match.
curse integration is garbage

#272 herby1972

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Posted 14 December 2014 - 12:36 AM

Love the guide.  Thanks for all your hard work.

For those of you that are upset you bought a wrong piece of gear, or do not have access to the high rank/rep versions to get the versatility that Vanguards is getting.  Do not fret.  Going from 5% versatitlity (easy without trying) to 10% (going all in and sacrificing other stats to achieve) is so small it will not make or break you.  Others may argue, but a few % here or there in any stat doesn't change a whole lot.

Long as you do not focus on haste or crt as a second to Strength, you will be fine.  mastery is great, multi strike procs a lot if you are 12-16% it really starts to add up and the extra procs get buffed by high mastery also.

I have found mastery and multi strike to scale well and offer similar dps results, a little bit of crit can help, and haste seems to only benifit us if we have 100% uptime on the target which is rare in pvp, you will be slowed, stunned, snared, feared a lot and will have plenty of time for your abilities to be up and with a focus on mastery>multi>crt=haste when you do hit them...they will know it.

For enchants versatility gives you the least bang for your buck.  If you enchnat everything versatility you will get about 2.02% gain verse mastery which will give about 6.5% (i am rounding here)  multi strike gives around 4.25%, crit about 2.5% haste around 2.2%

I have tried every combo of gear for deeps, the only time it significanly goes down us when I go all in on haste or crit but when balanced mastery, multi strike and crt=haste it peaks out nicely.

Yes versitility gets you a tad more survival but unless you are pushing 2400+ top rank stuff.....meh.

Just my two cents....have at me :)

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Posted 19 December 2014 - 11:15 PM

any macros for sac off the GCD while casting it at another player so it doesn't double cast?

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Posted 19 December 2014 - 11:20 PM

View Postehkz, on 19 December 2014 - 11:15 PM, said:

any macros for sac off the GCD while casting it at another player so it doesn't double cast?

/castsequence [target=party1] reset=1 Hand of Sacrifice,Turn Evil

Works just fine.

Edited by Dafuq, 19 December 2014 - 11:21 PM.





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