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#21 Kadryelx

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 11:23 AM

[quote name='Jimos']My turn evil macro is pretty insane too:

/cast Turn evil

What you do is press tab, press the macro and press tab once more and you win at life.[/QUOTE]

and then u lose some seconds on ur auto attack, the macro is 10 times better than tabbing

thats like saying u use no macro for anything, u tab target to hoj and repentance
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Posted 21 January 2011 - 01:27 PM

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thx every1!

@kadryel and  navariumlol

that's a pretty advanced turnevil macro, i'll definitely give it a try myself too

It was my macro to begin with, it has just gotten popular it seems :D

@Jimos, pretty much what Kadryel said, macros are superior than tabbing through to CC something.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 12:04 AM

Just tried that Turn Evil macro.. It seems to bug a lot for me :/

Doesnt fear the pets I have to tab it as usual :3

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 09:34 AM

It works fine for me, but if you're having problems with it, try this (needs two macros, you need to know the name of the button the 2nd macro is on by using /framestack):

Macro 1:

/use [@arena1]Turn Evil
/use [@arena2]Turn Evil
/use [@arena3]Turn Evil
/use [@arena4]Turn Evil
/use [@arena5]Turn Evil
/use [@arena1pet]Turn Evil
/use [@arena2pet]Turn Evil
/use [@arena3pet]Turn Evil
/click <button>

Macro 2: (on <button>)

/use [@arenapet4]Turn Evil
/use [@arenapet5]Turn Evil
/use [@mouseover][]Turn Evil

Tell me if this works.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 09:56 AM

Navariumlól said:

It works fine for me, but if you're having problems with it, try this (needs two macros, you need to know the name of the button the 2nd macro is on by using /framestack):

Macro 1:

/use [@arena1]Turn Evil

/use [@arena2]Turn Evil

/use [@arena3]Turn Evil

/use [@arena4]Turn Evil

/use [@arena5]Turn Evil

/use [@arena1pet]Turn Evil

/use [@arena2pet]Turn Evil

/use [@arena3pet]Turn Evil

/click <button>

Macro 2: (on <button>)

/use [@arenapet4]Turn Evil

/use [@arenapet5]Turn Evil

/use [@mouseover][]Turn Evil

Tell me if this works.

so replace "button" with whatever macro 2s name is and it should work?

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 10:02 AM

ive never had any problem with the one I posted on the other page
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 10:08 AM

No, the <button> is MultiBarActionButton2 or something. The name of the button. It should work though, that's just an alternative.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 11:50 PM

i use valor points trinket and i like it .. u can make hit cap with everything reforged to mastery :)

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 03:18 AM

It's also worth noting that come next patch attack power is what the absorb value of the new Sacred Shield is calculated from, which makes Strength even MORE valuable than what it is now.  It also makes the on use strength pvp trinket more tactical in use because prior to dipping below 30% hp you can pop the trinket for a massive boost to the absorb.

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 12:07 PM

Glyph wise, glyph of Seal of Truth is going to be a requirement. This is because on the PTR at the moment we no longer gain a point of Holy Power if Crusader Strike is dodged, blocked or parried.

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 07:06 PM

Bartimeus said:

Glyph wise, glyph of Seal of Truth is going to be a requirement. This is because on the PTR at the moment we no longer gain a point of Holy Power if Crusader Strike is dodged, blocked or parried.

excellent point you fat tauren

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 07:19 PM

Belf female now because I got fed up with pushback on stomp :)

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 07:23 PM

Bubler said:

It's also worth noting that come next patch attack power is what the absorb value of the new Sacred Shield is calculated from, which makes Strength even MORE valuable than what it is now.  It also makes the on use strength pvp trinket more tactical in use because prior to dipping below 30% hp you can pop the trinket for a massive boost to the absorb.

Can confirm how good this is as well, its amazing how much of a difference the 1605 strength makes to this ability, and how much difference Sacred Shield makes to Retribution as a whole. Seen a few absorbs into the 35k-38k region testing today which is awesome :D

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 07:27 PM

Bartimeus said:

Belf female now because I got fed up with pushback on stomp :)

Good choice :)

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Can confirm how good this is as well, its amazing how much of a difference the 1605 strength makes to this ability, and how much difference Sacred Shield makes to Retribution as a whole. Seen a few absorbs into the 35k-38k region testing today which is awesome

Yeah i was pretty surprised by this as well.  I find myself being able to hold out for another SS proc after the first one, and then still having bubble is a massive surviv buff

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 12:31 PM

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and then u lose some seconds on ur auto attack, the macro is 10 times better than tabbing

thats like saying u use no macro for anything, u tab target to hoj and repentance

No it's just saving having another shitty bind for no reason

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 12:47 PM

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No it's just saving having another shitty bind for no reason

/facepalm
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 01:31 PM

Androff said:

/facepalm

Half the time you are being kited/running to your target giving you a perfect chance to fear the pet or w/e, so your not losing any auto swings. macros like this just make the game even more boring than it already is for a ret atm. It's NOT going to win you the game, i don't even know why people take this shit so serious it's so sad it makes me feel sick.

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 05:47 PM

/Pulse Jimos
/Soothe Jimos
/Hug Jimos

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 03:00 AM

Jimos said:

Half the time you are being kited/running to your target giving you a perfect chance to fear the pet or w/e, so your not losing any auto swings. macros like this just make the game even more boring than it already is for a ret atm. It's NOT going to win you the game, i don't even know why people take this shit so serious it's so sad it makes me feel sick.

Lets say ur on a target, and your partner goes "I need a fear for fel hunter so I can heal spam for another 10 seconds"

Without that macro u would go oh wait let me tab over to that felhutner first... dam tabbed to the warlock instead give me a few seconds

That macro plainly replaces ur turn evil keybinding, not making u lose any keybindings either so idk where ur logic applies. Not to mention everyone has their own preference. If you like to tab around and wait a few seconds before fearing pets or only have the option to fear pets when ur "being kited" then that's your preference.

Saying macros make u sick is just dumb.

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 11:03 AM

Bartimeus said:

Can confirm how good this is as well, its amazing how much of a difference the 1605 strength makes to this ability, and how much difference Sacred Shield makes to Retribution as a whole. Seen a few absorbs into the 35k-38k region testing today which is awesome :D

No way they are gonna allow 30k absorbs with 30sec CD :D
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