I still don't understand why mages cant just run war mage pally and do good vs lock teams. And RLS is not an auto win vs mage teams.
Warriors are too trainable by teams with casters in them unless you have a Shaman. WMS does better vs. caster teams, WMP does better against Rogue teams. If Rogues start to not suck dick then WMP will become more common.
well i appreciate your response but i think where your agrument goes wrong is when you say "lock comps"
rls= shaman purge your shields + dispeling his mut rogue so he stays on you. not the lock here
shadowcleave= dks being massively op and having a ton of anit magic tools, good ranged dmg, and cds for everything. if he gets on you, sadly you die shortly after. its not the lock who is the real issue here.
in rls or shadowcleave you could easily replace the lock with a hunter or mage for example and you would get raped just as well simply because its not the lock exploiting your weaknesses.
Locks are really, really good at shutting down swap attempts. We can't CC you and swap because of Felhunters. If we juke spell lock, Tongues keeps our casted burst in check. Fear + HoT breaks up our entire team's kills attempts.
In all of the comps you mentioned, Locks are (obviously) not a viable target by most if not all good Mage comps, and they stop our kill attempts well enough to beat us the majority of the time. I don't need to be telling you guys this - I'm sure you know yourself that when you see a Mage on the other team you don't exactly say "oh crap".
so we are left with a few things here. you get raped by purges. that has nothing to do with mage armor. you get raped by dks. nothing to do with mage armor outside of his strang. mutilate rogues, if given uptime on you, rape you. again this isnt the lock.
The fact that we A) can't kill you and
will get totally fucked on swaps and pressure by you absolutely has a lot to do with Mage Armor. If you aren't dotting us we get pushback protection via barriers, so more damage. If you blanket spell lock us on kill attempts, Mage Armor makes it less of a big deal.
even in all those lock comps we play if u didnt have mage armor you wouldnt be getting raped because of our full fears and full dots. it would still be because of the other classes exploiting your weaknesses. you should be asking for something to protect you against your weaknesses, and it certainly isnt against casters.
Getting dotted and turtled to death was one of our weaknesses. We asked for something to protect us against it, we got it (Mage Armor), and ever since, Mages and Locks have been pretty much identically powerful in arenas.
lastly dont quote some bg956 has 9/10 teams who have a lock on their team. that arguement doesnt support you need for mage armor because again its not the lock in the comp who is giving you the massive issues you face. that piece of info would support an argument such as "locks are more valuable in more 3v3 comps then mages are".
I was quoting current representation statistics to preemptively counter the argument that Mages are more successful than Locks in arenas right now - not a lot of people realize that Locks are the #1 DPS class in arena reps right now.