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#1 amerge

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:41 PM

Hey, I Just started playing again, and I just hit 85 on my rogue.

So, as sub what do you usually do for damage, do you get hemo up then start spamming backstab? Do you use rupture at all? Thanks

#2 Spythe

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:54 PM

Backstab whenever you can, Hemo about the other 90% of the time. Rupture is pretty terrible for damage but so is evis. First set of combo should go to Recuperate if you have Imp Recuperate then Rupture on non clothies.
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 12:29 AM

Sub deals damage?
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#4 Jimmyeh

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 12:40 AM

Ghoruz said:

Sub deals damage?

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 12:53 AM

Ghoruz said:

Sub deals damage?

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#6 Jimmyeh

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 01:13 AM

i still rather play sub than mutilate, sadface.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 01:36 AM

Jimmyeh said:

i still rather play sub than mutilate, sadface.

So would I, but the damage is pretty bad.
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#8 Bartuck

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 01:45 AM

Couldn't kill an afk shadow priest today at harbor in IoC, then his friends arrived from very far away. Well it's kind of pathetic hitting that stupid shadow priest for 3k backstab noncrits.

Same goes for affliction locks. I got the almighty t1 dagger today and I got all the honor stuff so far and I just don't do any damage at all. It's sad.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 01:48 AM

Jimmyeh said:

i still rather play sub than mutilate, sadface.

Just get use to mut or reroll, its not soo bad but you feel like a retarded warrior. The upside is I can tank with recuperate up
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 03:01 AM

Rogues are a joke, just play mutilate and tunnel the shit out of something or reroll, never hated our class more than I do now, and I've been playin on and off since s3
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 05:28 AM

Ghoruz said:

Sub deals damage?

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#12 Phood

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 10:53 AM

Ghoruz said:

Sub deals damage?

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 01:55 PM

Damage deals sub?

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 07:13 PM

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 01:30 AM

subway deals no damage
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#16 Rueben SR_US

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 03:27 AM

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Rogues are a joke, just play mutilate and tunnel the shit out of something or reroll, never hated our class more than I do now, and I've been playin on and off since s3

sums up my feelings pretty well

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 03:33 AM

It's like TBC kind off right now

You can't die anymore and you got good mobility, tradeoff being the fact that you can't do serious amounts of damage outside of sdance(+smokebomb for the kill)

I honestly don't think they should buff sub damage ALL THAT MUCH - besides finally making up their minds regarding the attack of choice for sub ( hemo or backstab ) - they should finally decide how much damage per energy should the sub rogue do - Taking 10-15% of someone's health bar for 40 energy sounds pretty fine to me ( 45%-ish of HP over the course of one energy pool + 10 energy )

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 03:49 AM

Lolflay said:

It's like TBC kind off right now

You can't die anymore and you got good mobility, tradeoff being the fact that you can't do serious amounts of damage outside of sdance(+smokebomb for the kill)

I honestly don't think they should buff sub damage ALL THAT MUCH - besides finally making up their minds regarding the attack of choice for sub ( hemo or backstab ) - they should finally decide how much damage per energy should the sub rogue do - Taking 10-15% of someone's health bar for 40 energy sounds pretty fine to me ( 45%-ish of HP over the course of one energy pool + 10 energy )

Only you did shitloads of damage in TBC (cya druid in CS->KS).
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Posted 25 December 2010 - 04:20 AM

Lolflay said:

It's like TBC kind off right now

You can't die anymore and you got good mobility, tradeoff being the fact that you can't do serious amounts of damage outside of sdance(+smokebomb for the kill)

I honestly don't think they should buff sub damage ALL THAT MUCH - besides finally making up their minds regarding the attack of choice for sub ( hemo or backstab ) - they should finally decide how much damage per energy should the sub rogue do - Taking 10-15% of someone's health bar for 40 energy sounds pretty fine to me ( 45%-ish of HP over the course of one energy pool + 10 energy )

Nah, as Dance it's worse than our damage in TBC as Shadowstep. We weren't 100% completely reliant on a single cooldown to drop someone. Often a kick + KS was enough to force CD's for example. I can't kill stuff with a full kick lockout + Garrote + Dance dmg + KS, it's just stupid.

Other classes have just as much survivability (Feral, Mage, DK), more mobility (Feral, Warrior) and more damage all the time, even without the use of major CD's (Warrior, Mage, Feral, DK). I don't see in what part we excel at. Maybe Smokebomb, outside of that ability we're pretty useless. I'm all for nerfing it and getting better consistent damage and better mobility to compensate.
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#20 Ispen

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 06:25 AM

Compared to tbc:
Damage is worse - full energy bar doing like 20% dmg of opponent ?
Mobility is worse - hello roots
and now CS KS is gone so you have to redirect kidney dance on a target with no trinket or he will just get away with one root.




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