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PvPing on a Rogue Makes me Want to Quit


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#81 leanfear

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 07:29 PM

We lost deadly throw interrupt: years ago
We lost ShS usable while rooted: .. years ago
We lost chaining CS into KS:without stunreduction talents its not that bad
We lost Imp Gouge in our PvP Specs: true

We gained 2 seconds of silence on garrote through a glyph
We gained a shorter cooldown on ShS

we GAINED smokebomb which makes everything up seriously
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#82 Malladon

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 07:42 PM

I honestly cbf to play mutilate, maybe I'm fucking retarded but I never have anything better than marginal success with the spec- even playing RLS in wotlk I always ended up doing better as dance :o

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#83 Zabrz

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 07:49 PM

We lost deadly throw interrupt: years ago
We lost ShS usable while rooted: .. years ago
We lost chaining CS into KS:without stunreduction talents its not that bad
We lost Imp Gouge in our PvP Specs: true

We gained 2 seconds of silence on garrote through a glyph
We gained a shorter cooldown on ShS

we GAINED smokebomb which makes everything up seriously


I said less control than in the past. Those are all in the past regardless of if they're from BC or Wrath. Smokebomb is wonderful but its not the type of fix that our class need.
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#84 leanfear

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 07:58 PM

it was exactly the tool our class needed?!
an intelligent aoe effect that can fuck up people so fucking hard combined with a full kidney and a supporting damagedealer(read:mage)
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#85 Zabrz

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:05 PM

it was exactly the tool our class needed?!
an intelligent aoe effect that can fuck up people so fucking hard combined with a full kidney and a supporting damagedealer(read:mage)


Anything with a mage is going to do amazing. AoE abilities like smoke bomb and ring of frost are awesome but I don't think they're right for arena.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:21 PM

it was exactly the tool our class needed?!
an intelligent aoe effect that can fuck up people so fucking hard combined with a full kidney and a supporting damagedealer(read:mage)


Yeah, because any semi-decent team will not be prepared for that.
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#87 Jakeyo

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:23 PM

Why we have the same stealth level as everyone else is stupid.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:27 PM

Isn't subt's PVE dps terrible? What I don't understand is blizz's "every spec must be viable in pvp and pve" mentality that leads to specs like frost for mages doing great damage AND control, while it's just a generally held belief that subt should never be PVE viable spec because it has shadowstep and control so it doesn't need more damage.

Shouldn't blizz be frantically buffing subt's damage to make it a viable pve spec?
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:38 PM

Isn't subt's PVE dps terrible? What I don't understand is blizz's "every spec must be viable in pvp and pve" mentality that leads to specs like frost for mages doing great damage AND control, while it's just a generally held belief that subt should never be PVE viable spec because it has shadowstep and control so it doesn't need more damage.

Shouldn't blizz be frantically buffing subt's damage to make it a viable pve spec?


and combat in pvp...rofl
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:38 PM

Blizzard is good at making our specs viable in both aspects.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:50 PM

The rogue class has pretty much been changed to every rogue play 100% mut. Mut damage is amazing in pve and in pvp(when your not getting kited). With all the -damage % moves and imp recuperate you can tank for a bit. And bliz seems to want to get rid of stealth by changing all of our stealth moves close to worthless expect the garrote silence.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 11:10 PM

you have smoke bomb, team up with a mage and youre set

shit is broken
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 11:14 PM

smoke bomb most OP ability in game ?!?! I dont see rogues as a weak class atm
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 11:23 PM

smoke bomb most OP ability in game ?!?! I dont see rogues as a weak class atm


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#95 leanfear

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 12:48 AM

its way harder to counter a well placed/timed smokebomb then setting it up though I agree that its even more powerful against bad players
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 07:17 AM

We lost deadly throw interrupt: years ago
We lost ShS usable while rooted: .. years ago
We lost chaining CS into KS:without stunreduction talents its not that bad
We lost Imp Gouge in our PvP Specs: true

We gained 2 seconds of silence on garrote through a glyph
We gained a shorter cooldown on ShS

we GAINED smokebomb which makes everything up seriously


smoke bomb pretty much fixes all rogue problems =<
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 07:18 AM

smoke bomb pretty much fixes all rogue problems =<


No it doesn't. And if it did, it wouldn't be the kind of "fix" that I'd want anyways.
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 08:04 AM

No it doesn't. And if it did, it wouldn't be the kind of "fix" that I'd want anyways.


Couldn't agree more. I find enemy smoke bombs extremely easy to counter and for the most part its very predictable.

Is your trinket on cooldown? Yes
Enemy Rogue casts Kidney Shot.

WONDER WHAT'S COMING??
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 08:15 AM

Playing with a mage made me 10x better

DUAL SMOKE BOMB NUKE
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Posted 24 December 2010 - 08:18 AM

stop defending smoke bomb even the slightest, rofl
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