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Sudden Death talent.. Has togo.


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#41 Redefined

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Posted 19 December 2010 - 08:10 AM

i don't see whats wrong with it, well wow, then u got it procced 2 times in a row, nice extra burst, thats it

prolly every class has this "good" rng proccs now
palas exorcism, mage has even 2 with fingers and brainfreeze, etc.

its not that uber considering you need to stick to a target for at least 12 seconds to make real use of it

moreover this is still pvp - ppl have to get used to it - when they realise warrior dps going nuts with that procc (pretty easy to see in the buff bar) it will make them use something to compensate


What proc are we talking about? CS alone? How on Earth can you "compensate" defensively with an ability that's up every 14seconds, if not more? Am I missing something.. :confused:
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 04:00 PM

warrior damage must be buffed dramatically if sudden death is to be removd,it has like a 50% uptime right now in pve and arms is still not doing very good
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 04:22 PM

Crybabies are all over the forums campaigning to get the class nerfed, its only a matter of time before something happens.


Yeah, imagine the nerve of some people who want to play a balanced game instead of some overpowered faceroll shit.

They should be shamed.
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 04:30 PM

warrior damage must be buffed dramatically if sudden death is to be removd,it has like a 50% uptime right now in pve and arms is still not doing very good


this
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 04:37 PM

I love how you people pull the PvE card out.
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 04:53 PM

I love how you people pull the PvE card out.


how do you mean that?
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 05:04 PM

how do you mean that?


The fact that 90% of you don't give a shit about PvE, but it suits you to use it as an excuse when it suits your argument.
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 05:24 PM

okay I'm under geared as fuck and I'm not trying to defend mages in any way I just know a mage wasn't spamming 27k lances


full hc gear(more mastery = more dmg then pvp gear) vs rogue in 800 resil testing a few days ago

with shatter (fof procc or nova or df) 13-15k crit (unless 1.7k sp trinket procced wich took it up to about 16-17

without shatter 3k hit 6-7k crit

this was 800 resil, im sure that guy just procced 3k spellpower and had a +magicdmg debuff applied to target, oh and spellstole avengers.
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 05:32 PM

The fact that 90% of you don't give a shit about PvE, but it suits you to use it as an excuse when it suits your argument.


a) a good amount of people in this site do pve

b)the participation of a lot of posters on this site is due to blizzard wanting all specs to be viable everywhere

c)I'm pretty sure i can find a post of yours (I don't remember your posts I'm just speculating) that argues shadow should be viable

the same way you want shadow viable everywhere we want fury viable in pvp and arms viable in farming critters and doing the laundry
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 05:41 PM

a) a good amount of people in this site do pve

b)the participation of a lot of posters on this site is due to blizzard wanting all specs to be viable everywhere

c)I'm pretty sure i can find a post of yours (I don't remember your posts I'm just speculating) that argues shadow should be viable

the same way you want shadow viable everywhere we want fury viable in pvp and arms viable in farming critters and doing the laundry


a. I never said that they dont DO pve, i said they don't give a shit about it, thats completely diffferent.

b. erm, what has this got to do with anything?

c. no you wont, ps why are you even bringing fury into this, when not only have every single post ive ever seen you make, you've said you wont ever play fury anyway and this thread has nothing at all to do with fury? last time I checked, sudden death was a deep arms talent...
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 05:49 PM

I don't see why you think arms shouldn't be viable for pve.Why is everything else viable anywhere?

If people can raid with frost then I should definitely be able to raid with arms

besides that,it's not realistic to suggest changes that are going to ruin something in pve
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 05:54 PM

I don't see why you think arms shouldn't be viable for pve


Why do you always try to comment on something people dont even say?
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 06:07 PM

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TSG shouldn't win against an equally skilled LSD but 99% of all LSDs are super retarded so it's quite easy to zerg the druid from start to finish.


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Posted 19 December 2010 - 06:40 PM

Why do you always try to comment on something people dont even say?


i say "this wont happen because it would fuck arms pve" ,you say "who the fuck cares"

where did you lose me?
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 07:55 PM

The fact that 90% of you don't give a shit about PvE, but it suits you to use it as an excuse when it suits your argument.


why not argue about pve, we know blizz does balance around pve almost exclusively anyway
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 08:34 PM

I have to say sudden death is rly op, especially when u've got all proccs ( trinkets etc) and deadly calm up. I've bursted several ppl down which i wouldn've have done without this stupid procc. I guess we'll get nerfed soon :D
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 08:44 PM

Take colossus smash out of the game and give warriors passive % arp or make colossus smash last longer w/ lower armor reduction. Problem solved.
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Posted 19 December 2010 - 10:55 PM

i don't like how CS itself can refresh itself, so if you're not disciplined enough you're liable to use CS before the debuff even wears off haha, wasting the rng
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Posted 20 December 2010 - 01:36 AM

Certainly hope they do something about that CS, the joke warrior is atm makes it depressing to play. 10% crit btw.
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Posted 20 December 2010 - 01:40 AM

as i mentioned before, removing collosus smash and giving back arp would balance both pve and pvp.
we wouldn´t have dps issues and we wouldn´t do too much burst.

i haven´t hear a single argument which can give a reason to not do it.

and yes considering everything what was in s9 i do think arp was fine (shadowmourne however wasn´t).
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