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#321 nim

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:05 AM

With what exactly, my half duration dots or my decurse of tongues? If you think warlocks wreck mages right now you must be playing a pretty specific comp.


With their massive damage reduction and self healing. Warlocks tank Mages like a brick wall. It doesn't matter if you arn't dealing massive damage to him, he's dealing even less to you.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:07 AM

With what exactly, my half duration dots or my decurse of tongues? If you think warlocks wreck mages right now you must be playing a pretty specific comp.


Uh no, warlocks wreck mages in a purely 1v1 basis. Warlocks are just mages with less burst, more damage, infinitely more healing, tons of CC and control, not to mention you literally CANNOT train a warlock, they have much more freedom over a match than a mage does because mages are constantly trained.
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#323 Kelarm

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:08 AM

I clearly wasn't talking about duels in my original post. Why the hell would I be concerned with the state of 1v1, especially with the game as bad as it is right now?
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:08 AM

I really hate to admit Affix is semi-right, but mages aren't overpowered now! Definitely a strong class overall but I don't think anything other than ring of frost really needs to be changed.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:10 AM

Uh no, warlocks wreck mages in a purely 1v1 basis. Warlocks are just mages with less burst, more damage, infinitely more healing, tons of CC and control, not to mention you literally CANNOT train a warlock, they have much more freedom over a match than a mage does because mages are constantly trained.


Warlock control isn't really in the same league as a mage, not really sure what the point of this post was, basically just spewing common knowledge
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:13 AM

I clearly wasn't talking about duels in my original post. Why the hell would I be concerned with the state of 1v1, especially with the game as bad as it is right now?


Because the person you were talking to was talking about 1v1s.

Also, warlocks have always been the bane of mages with CoT/fear spam/pet spell locks or defensive dispels/offensive
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:16 AM

Warlocks would be the bane of mages if mage armor didn't exist lol
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:19 AM

Warlocks were the bane of mages before mage armor and when fel hunters had retarded resists. I don't know why people still say this, that was a long, long time ago.

Hunters were clearly the bane of mages at the end of WotLK.
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#329 Delikat

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:34 AM

Hunters were clearly the bane of mages at the end of WotLK.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 05:41 PM

I really hate to admit Affix is semi-right, but mages aren't overpowered now! Definitely a strong class overall but I don't think anything other than ring of frost really needs to be changed.

RoF needs a cooldown nerf or needs to be removed from cold snap, and SB/iCoC should share DR

I think I have the right to call all of you guys assholes for trolling me for weeks for saying Mages will be fine at 85 in gear, btw :)
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 07:17 PM

Remove ring of frost. Problem solved.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 07:34 PM

Edit it to share Dr with all mages CC's.

Problem solved.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 07:43 PM

Make it not able to freeze the target if its not in a frost nova just like deepfreeze and make fingers of frost affect it .
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:00 PM

leave my beloved ring of love alone.
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