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#21 Claynz

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Posted 13 December 2010 - 10:41 PM

Restoration is so OP, spam cleanse and shocks = gg.


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Posted 13 December 2010 - 10:48 PM

hey, i decided to play my shaman aswell now in cata since mages are so dumb and they took the entire skill and rewardness out of it :)

i currently completed olmost all hc's exept a few and this is what i think about the current state:

1. i never use surge, unless tank is going to low and even GHW ain't helping

2. ligntingboltspams during a few free globals obtained by using GHW is actualy olmost better then spaming shitty HW and not dmg'ing
i think if some1 could come up with some numbers how effective the 2 are it would be a realy great thing to this tread :) or your ''how to shaman'' but the ligntingbolt talent is realy needed...

3. i think healing atm is realy realy good for shamans we have a spell for evry situation and i like it alot personaly..

4. i think more people should realise that riptide + wep proc is an awsome hot and heals for around 35K+ hp over the time. i think lots of shamans are not using this as effective

5. i want to share my hps i pull off, i do 9.5k hps on most bossfights, and i wanne know whats your hps? this is also going oom very steady and not in 1 minute, i last prity long bcause i'm using ligntingbolts aswell.. :)

anyways aswome thread this was shurely missing on the forums atm.. +rep :)


At current gear levels surge is virtually equivalent in HPM and much better in terms of HPS so I would recommend using surge a bit more currently.

Using lightning bolt with the talent is definitely something you can do to gain mana back if you are afforded the time. With buffs you'll probably gain something like 400-800 mana back depending on int levels.
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Posted 14 December 2010 - 11:00 AM

4. i think more people should realise that riptide + wep proc is an awsome hot and heals for around 35K+ hp over the time. i think lots of shamans are not using this as effective


Agree with most of what you said, but I've read (not tested tbh) on EJ that the proc nor the shock buff does anything for the hot of riptide, only the initial heal.
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Posted 14 December 2010 - 01:24 PM

i still see many shamans without the riptide glyph, makes me ":("
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Posted 14 December 2010 - 07:50 PM

Already posted in another thread, but feel free to add this to the FAQ or w/e since a lot of people are curious about mastery and how much it helps at certain HP points.


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Posted 14 December 2010 - 10:08 PM

you heal for 4k what kinda heal is that?!?!?
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Posted 14 December 2010 - 10:14 PM

probably unleash or something with a low range to make testing easier

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yeah unleash has zero range so they used that for simplicity
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Posted 14 December 2010 - 11:06 PM

I made a spreadsheet on mana efficiency a couple days ago... It showed GHW as being more efficient than HS by a decent margin. When combined with Focused Insight and Unleash Weapon, GHW was outperforming HW in both efficiency and HPS.

I'm not at home now so don't have access to my spreadsheet, but this is what I was finding. I've gotten some new gear since then, not sure how it would impact this.

Also, Focused Insight only seemed to improve efficiency (at my gear level) when combined with GHW, but not the other healing spells.

I've found that UW and Focused Insight do not impact HOTs (and UW even says that it does not in the Earthliving UW description).
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 02:08 AM

ye GHW is win just that HS is nicer when someone with an interrupt ability sits on you unless you got the riptide buff with 30% haste :)))))
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 02:13 AM

Using lightning bolt with the talent is definitely something you can do to gain mana back if you are afforded the time. With buffs you'll probably gain something like 400-800 mana back depending on int levels.


It is probably better not casting at all and get the out of combat regen instead. As people get more resil, the lightning bolts will hit less and less.
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#31 Claynz

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 02:25 AM

funny if it miss and you lose 1400 mana :DDD


And btw i was very bored so i made this :DDDD

another totemtoe project 03:20 at night 5 min to make zzzz :DD off to bed NN

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 02:42 AM

yeah having no hit on my current pvp gear is really frustrating
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Posted 15 December 2010 - 11:13 AM

this ENDLESS QUEUE
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Posted 17 December 2010 - 05:07 PM

Not sure if it's been said but unleash Frostbrand slow works on freedom and bladestorm :rolleyes:
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Posted 18 December 2010 - 12:48 AM

rly? :x
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Posted 18 December 2010 - 01:16 AM

Not sure if it's been said but unleash Frostbrand slow works on freedom and bladestorm :rolleyes:


I had a warrior in my guild rage when I told him this. Was pretty funny.
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Posted 21 December 2010 - 06:38 PM

So what you guys think about shamans atm?

I just geared my alliance hunter to full pvp gear now i gona do my main shaman but not looking forward to the horde queues :(

Some of you people with decent gear wanna share some toughts? ;)
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Posted 21 December 2010 - 10:30 PM

fun, even with shiz gearz
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Posted 31 December 2010 - 01:02 AM

What stats you guys focus on atm? just geared up my shaman considering reforge my gear into mastery for more burst heal with Insight Focus Unleash elements and GHW alot changed since beta gona do some research myself just woundering what you guys are going atm.
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Posted 31 December 2010 - 07:16 PM

stacking resilience like a champ, doing some 2s and 3s whenever we feel like it.

and oh, being a pvehero trying to acquire sexy trinkets.
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