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#1 Lolflay

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 04:56 AM

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even if it's just "viable", I'd like to honestly play that over the 1.80 dagger/fastest OH combo.



basically cba backstab anymore ( yeyeye I know it's the best and offers best energy/dmg ratio )
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#2 Shrouds

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 05:47 AM

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even if it's just "viable", I'd like to honestly play that over the 1.80 dagger/fastest OH combo.



basically cba backstab anymore ( yeyeye I know it's the best and offers best energy/dmg ratio )

If you'll play it no matter what, then why does it matter how viable it is? Go play it and have fun.
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 06:21 AM

because sucking massive dong for the sake of "fun" isnt very..... "fun"
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 07:15 AM

Hemo damage at the moment (imo) is pretty terrible, I can't see that changing at 85.
You could try combat, i've never played it myself but it does look kinda fun I guess...

Basically unless our bleed damage gets buffed quite a bit to warrant actually using hemo for the debuff, backstab is going to be superior in every aspect. I could be wrong though ;)
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 07:18 AM

Probably wont happen due to Rogues being the only class using daggers that drop in raids.
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 07:58 AM

doubt we'll have hemo as a main attack again unfortunately, I think blizz even said something about not wanting it to be a main attack anymore.


also,combat is sooooooo bad :(
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 02:55 PM

Probably wont happen due to Rogues being the only class using daggers that drop in raids.


wasnt it the same in tbc :P?
oh well considering puncturing wounds will be avaiable at 85 hemo just seems shit compared to bstab :|
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 03:10 PM

backstab>hemo
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 04:36 PM

if you want to mainhand a non-dagger, stop playing a rogue.

you can spec combat but that's basically the same thing.
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 05:19 PM

if you want to mainhand a non-dagger, stop playing a rogue.

you can spec combat but that's basically the same thing.


I LIEK UR MAINHAND
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 05:31 PM

if you want to mainhand a non-dagger, stop playing a rogue.

you can spec combat but that's basically the same thing.


ever heard of a swashbuckler?

gtfo
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 08:37 PM

ever heard of a swashbuckler?

No, but combat also says its "toe to toe," which means they want combat to be spammy like that and they want subtley to be daggers and sneaky/ambushy.
Backstab is also extremely easy to use in today's game:
-you no longer regen energy every 3 seconds
-you can actually increase your energy regen
-backstab costs 40 energy + 5 refund if it crits
-You have grenades or shadowstep or shadow dance to get behind your opponent for a kidney to backstab
ETC
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#13 Kastaan

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Posted 10 November 2010 - 12:20 AM

i dunno, lore-wise there's not really saying anything about rogues being only dagger-wielders. The specializations kind of imply a different weapon specialization.

Assassination seems more of a stabbing people daggers kind of spec. Subtlety seems more ninja-like and thus swords would make just as much sense. It'd be nice if the damage modifiers were adjusted to make it so daggers or swords are about the same for sub.
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 01:58 AM

My post got deleted? Just saying energy regged every 2 secs not 3 -_-
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 02:58 AM

My post got deleted? Just saying energy regged every 2 secs not 3 -_-


Vexo'd.
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 06:35 AM

My post got deleted? Just saying energy regged every 2 secs not 3 -_-


You used the "S-word".

Big No-No.
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 07:56 AM

was just honest :<
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 12:42 PM

losing backstab is one thing, but @80, daggers do more hemo/ambush damage compared to equivalent non-daggers. which imo, should be changed.

can any beta-testers inform me if it's the same @85?
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 01:01 PM

Drop Dagger requirement from Backstab.
I'm pretty sure you can Backstab (Skewer I guess) someone with a Claymore,
so a Bastard or Longsword wouldn't really be "lol impossible, not RP enuff".

Tune Hemo, Backstab and Ambush modifiers so that they offer identical damage numbers for both One-hand Weapons and Daggers.


Assassination would still remain the "Dagger" tree, but Subtlety would have the option to use either, depending on the preference of the player.


Problem solved.
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 03:43 PM

^ Agreed. Bring back Neilyo 14 playstyle.
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