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#41 Kelarm

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 12:12 PM

From anything I've heard and seen, frost mages are ridiculously overpowered at 85 too, so I'm not sure what the point is of discussing how it's np because 4.0 blows.
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#42 Nyttan

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 12:13 PM

Killing people in DF is nice.. no not really and that's why I play fire now, atleast you're able to die as fire
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#43 Moonfrost

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 02:47 PM

Don't understand why people are whining about 80 pvp when it's been clearly stated that the balance is for 85. I doubt the mages in 85 pvp gear with 4% haste and 12% crit think they need a nerf.


So why not impalement these changes after the expansion is out and not have this game retarded as fuck for months on end.
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#44 Granter

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 02:59 PM

So why not impalement these changes after the expansion is out and not have this game retarded as fuck for months on end.


you did obviously start this game in wotlk, it have been like this every expansion, deal with it...
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#45 Moonfrost

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 03:05 PM

you did obviously start this game in wotlk, it have been like this every expansion, deal with it...


No I played TBC, but it still doesn't make sense to have your subs pay for a game that is a piece of shit. So yeah, I dont have to "deal with it". I just wont play. Like for fucks sake they took out arena ques for what reason?
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 03:38 PM

Got so bored of 4.0.1 so fast...
Also resistances only mitigate dmg not causing resists ^.^


Yea okay then why do I get chain resists on DF, nova, etc on live? It can't be coming from anything else. I'd take a screenshot of recount but I'm at work and I don't think any of the mages on the server want to duel me anymore.
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#47 Disdain

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 03:59 PM

I'm not saying mages arent stupid atm, but theres still a few matchups this ridiculously overpowered class cant handle.

My best chance of killing a 1600+ resi holy paladin at the moment is him having to log out. Ridiculous self-healing, ridiculous mana efficiency - just stupid.
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#48 Supastarpowa

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 04:33 PM

resistance doesn't cause binary resists anymore


So I wouldn't have to get spell pen to stop fear resists now?
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#49 balthazaar

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 04:37 PM

So I wouldn't have to get spell pen to stop fear resists now?


Yes.
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 04:46 PM

I'm not saying mages arent stupid atm, but theres still a few matchups this ridiculously overpowered class cant handle.

My best chance of killing a 1600+ resi holy paladin at the moment is him having to log out. Ridiculous self-healing, ridiculous mana efficiency - just stupid.


With 1500 resi as holy pala, I die to a mage in DF blanket CS 100-0, I don't think the 100resillience makes that big difference.
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Posted 09 November 2010 - 04:59 PM

With 1500 resi as holy pala, I die to a mage in DF blanket CS 100-0, I don't think the 100resillience makes that big difference.


Add in 350 frost resist and you'll be all set.
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#52 Alesandra

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 10:15 PM

To be honest, dueling mages currently is really fun for me. I like having the thrill of trying to survive that random DF that could kill me from 100 to 0. Chastise makes it annoying for them though :)
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#53 Syaoran

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Posted 09 November 2010 - 10:37 PM

fire is now shitloads of fun... get ready for some whine form warriors and rogues for being OP tough... against all other classes it's liek OMG NICE... haven't even played frost tbh
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 12:56 AM

You took words from my mouth. Dueling pallies is unbelieveable shit right now. You might have chance if you get lucky with FoF and they have no LOS possibility.

If you wan't try something extreme, find a protri paladin who has frost res gear(400+). Now that's interesting.
9 DF resists
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He fucking stood still, killed my pet as I nuked him with everything I got. Couldn't drop him below 80%.


You should probly move your pet with the new click to move feature........... or use Arcane Blast during Deep Freezes......................... OR GET SPELL PEN...................................
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 02:05 AM

or better yet dont duel the person who is obviously stacking stam / resil / resist gear just to spite you...?
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 03:14 AM

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Posted 10 November 2010 - 03:17 AM

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lol jk, lvl85 + 100k healthpools + resilience :D

Edit: oh! almost forgot : multiple healers because now we think about BGs instead of 1v1 weeeee!:D:D:D
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Posted 10 November 2010 - 12:58 PM

lol jk, lvl85 + 100k healthpools + resilience :D

Edit: oh! almost forgot : multiple healers because now we think about BGs instead of 1v1 weeeee!:D:D:D


Ice Lance still crits hard enough to make that viable, and we are still thinking about a 1v1 situation because that is the topic at hand. Sorry.

BTW, why do you have 3 points in Enduring Winter when that talent is absolutely useless? We have nearly unlimited Mana right now, you should put those three wasted talent points somewhere that will actually be meaningful.
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#59 Hetfield

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Posted 10 November 2010 - 01:13 PM

For everyone saying "this doesn't matter, 85 will fix it".. guess again. On beta it's the exact same way. Mage damage is just completely absurd. 120k health pools don't mean shit when a mage is turreting into you with heroism while ur deep frozen/blanket silenced. Mage rogue 100-0s my ret during their opener with 1 DF>blanket cs every time.

Damage at 85 is even worse than wotlk s8 because they took out all kinds of utility that prevented damage like stun duration reduction, offensive dispel resistance, stun removals, hybrid class cleanses, absorption shields. Health pools don't mean shit when there's no way to stop the damage.
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#60 ej25lol

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Posted 10 November 2010 - 05:49 PM

Ice Lance still crits hard enough to make that viable, and we are still thinking about a 1v1 situation because that is the topic at hand. Sorry.

BTW, why do you have 3 points in Enduring Winter when that talent is absolutely useless? We have nearly unlimited Mana right now, you should put those three wasted talent points somewhere that will actually be meaningful.


Huh? I'm sure the topic is about the class and its "OPness". 1v1 is part of the discussion not the main focus. And I'm sure he was pointing out that 1v1's don't matter. Example? DK's are a perfect example. Any good DK should be able to be most if not all classes in a duel pre 4.0 patch. Warriors or hunters were horrible in duels. But last time I checked, who would want a DK over a warrior or hunter in arena? Oh but they were so good in duels/1v1s? That's how much blizzard cares about 1v1 balance. Just saying don't cry just yet, wait for arena in cata.
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