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#41 denialz

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 07:01 AM

oh noes

Obviously he was talking about PTR


oops, qq
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#42 Blad3n

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 03:55 PM

Frost seems way more broken
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#43 Reesezpiecez

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 07:43 PM

I dunno about that, considering my mobile 1.3s casted scorches with a 50% crit chance crits for nearly as hard as my frostbolt, and i have way more instants, and just overall dots, and I can can stack my ignites in a way that lets me combust on someone for 12k+a dot over 10s that does another 12k, not to mention all the ways fire can proc blazing speed

Obviously damage is no real indicator but its very difficult to stop a fire mage from getting damage out, or his crits, plus we'll be an entirely mobile spec that runs pretty much no risk of going OOM since free mana scorches return mana on crit, but if cata plays out in a way that we'll need huge mobile damage, fire may very well be the way to go, or arcane since missiles are so easy to proc.

Frost damage just feels kinda meh.
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#44 Razorscythe

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 07:57 PM

Fire is way better than frost atm.


about time... the icebergs have melted in WoW
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Posted 15 September 2010 - 09:51 PM

I dunno about that, considering my mobile 1.3s casted scorches with a 50% crit chance crits for nearly as hard as my frostbolt, and i have way more instants, and just overall dots, and I can can stack my ignites in a way that lets me combust on someone for 12k+a dot over 10s that does another 12k, not to mention all the ways fire can proc blazing speed

Obviously damage is no real indicator but its very difficult to stop a fire mage from getting damage out, or his crits, plus we'll be an entirely mobile spec that runs pretty much no risk of going OOM since free mana scorches return mana on crit, but if cata plays out in a way that we'll need huge mobile damage, fire may very well be the way to go, or arcane since missiles are so easy to proc.

Frost damage just feels kinda meh.


Ya but when I can 100-0 someone in a DF by spamming Ice Lance... I dunno.
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Posted 17 September 2010 - 01:02 PM

pretty sure the "majority" of them were still frost, there was just a lot more arcane mages than normal.


no they werent, there wes like 2 high rated frost mages on my entire bg (not including myself)

Ya but when I can 100-0 someone in a DF by spamming Ice Lance... I dunno.


in cata or now? cause if you're talking about now that statement is absurd
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Posted 17 September 2010 - 08:14 PM

in cata or now? cause if you're talking about now that statement is absurd


prob meant ptr
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Posted 17 September 2010 - 08:27 PM

in cata or now? cause if you're talking about now that statement is absurd


On the PTR my Ice Lances are critting for 9-11k, it's pretty ridiculous.
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Posted 17 September 2010 - 11:35 PM

ROFL WAT oh wait its gear
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Posted 18 September 2010 - 03:52 AM

the "rambo" playstyle of fire/arcane gets old really fast... Anyone can play mage as those spec and do 30k dps with barely any CD and win, but not everyone can control good players, setup kill, make good switch, use CDs wisely, manage mana for long game, etc. Frost will always be the spec with the highest skill cap. I guess some mage must be very sick of playing frost though. As for me, it will be my first season on live as a mage and the only thing i wanna play is frost so yeah...
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Posted 18 September 2010 - 03:54 AM

the "rambo" playstyle of fire/arcane gets old really fast... Anyone can play mage as arc/fire and do 30k dps with barely any CD and win, but not everyone can control good players, setup kill, make good switch, use CDs wisely, manage mana, etc. Frost will always be the spec with the highest skill cap so ill be going frost.


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Posted 18 September 2010 - 03:57 AM

you lost me at rambo playstyle..
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Posted 18 September 2010 - 09:22 AM

You lost me at "frost having the highest skill cap." The skill cap of frost in cata is comparable to holy paladin right now.
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Posted 18 September 2010 - 10:16 AM

j/k guys they just buffed fire xP
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Posted 18 September 2010 - 12:27 PM

You lost me at "frost having the highest skill cap." The skill cap of frost in cata is comparable to holy paladin right now.


oh good an easy r1 title
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Posted 18 September 2010 - 02:37 PM

you lost me at rambo playstyle..


Im not trying to start a war of frost vs arc/fire lovers. Im just saying that arc/fire, just like rambo, outgun the shit out of other dps classes because they do a very high ammount of on the move magic damage with barely any CD and that unlike frost they get most of their proc from spells that are instant. The only other class that can compare to them is probably MM hunter.

@erase, Frost damage/burst (on live) will never be close or as easy to do as arc/fire, no one would play those 2 spec if that was the case. Btw, before saying that holy pal takes no skill maybe you should try playing one vs wizard cleave.
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Posted 18 September 2010 - 03:30 PM

y rambo doesn't use cds too
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Posted 18 September 2010 - 05:29 PM

lol

# Improved Hot Streak now also has a chance to proc from Pyroblast.
# Hot Streak now also has a chance to proc from Pyroblast.


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Posted 18 September 2010 - 05:32 PM

Fire just went from strong to overpowered in the latest build.
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Posted 18 September 2010 - 06:50 PM

so its like proper op right now destroying everyone in duels an shit or ppl are jus talkin shit?

even so that won't be the case in cata when everyone has pvp gear. at least i think
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