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#41 Neloangelo

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 07:54 PM

yup.. shadowpriests dont do enough damage.. your right.

I will accept this idea, if and only if they lower the baseline dmg of spriests. How about we give locks PI while were at it also.. since the DoT dmg is close to the same and they dont have a buff that helps them on demand either.


Affliction Warlocks already have a PI/Icy Veins with no internal cooldown, eradication.
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#42 Cavsux

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 07:57 PM

why make thread about needing something in cata when you have no idea how the game is gonna turn out to be.


P.S. I would like a spammable CC, evasion+CLoS+50%MS i will need it in cata....


yea its a real shame blizzard doesn't give us constant updates or allow people to play the beta version or anything like that.
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#43 Flöt

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 08:08 PM

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#44 Bumeyes

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 08:11 PM

What about if PI was made 2nd tier disci, and had a different effect depending on what "stance" (shadowform) you were in. Could also be built in to have some functionality with Chakra.

So perhaps you'd have 20% haste 20% mana cost reduction for Disci, 20% haste and reduced pushback for Shadow, and I don't really know how Holy works but hey, could have some PvE use.
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#45 berserker

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 08:20 PM

dont think holy priests are used in pve :)
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#46 Bloody_qq

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 09:40 PM

"already" means in your wotlk world?

He's referring to CATACLYSM right now, which will be a completely different game in terms of damage to health ratios, scaling factors, comps, buffs, gear and itemization.

And I agree, shadowpriests are lacking a damage cooldown (more so for PvE than PvP in current metagame) and PI fits right in.

Let's take a look at damage cooldowns come cataclysm:

Paladins: Avenging Wrath, Zealotry*
Rogues: Killing Spree, Adrenaline Rush, Blade Flurry, Vendetta*
Mages: Icy Veins, Combustion, Mirror Images, Water elemental, Time Warp*
Warriors: Death Wish, Recklessness, Bladestorm
Deathknights: Unbreakable Armor, Hysteria, Dancing rune weapon, Gargoyle, Empower Rune Weapon
Druids: Berserk, Starfall, Treants
Shamans: Feral spirit, Bloodlust Elemental mastery
Hunters: Rapid Fire, The Beast Within, (Readyness)
Warlocks: Metamorphosis
Shadowpriests: (shadowfiend)

I probably forgot a few, but some of the classes have damage increasing cooldowns coming out the rear, while ours is very mediocre and acts as 2 functions where damage dealing is the secondary and mana restoration is the primary. Giving PI to shadowpriests would be a welcome change, as long as overall damage output is balanced around it, the same way warriors are with deathwish and paladins with wings.


brah you played cata or smth? no? dont talk then, thanks.

y btw hunters can take bestial wrath and readyness and every other class same way, if you count them that way then..

PRIEST: PS, PI, FIEND, DISPERSION, GUARDIAN SPIRIT, DESPERATE PRAYER, LIGHTWELL (XP) AND DISARM + SILENCE, [email protected]
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#47 Mewee

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 09:44 PM

PRIEST: PS, PI, FIEND, DISPERSION, GUARDIAN SPIRIT, DESPERATE PRAYER, LIGHTWELL (XP) AND DISARM + SILENCE, [email protected]


I was listing on demand damage cooldowns, how many of the above does damage?
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#48 LowDeeps

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 09:56 PM

sounds good. i need another ability to use when my team pops beserking, bloodlust, sfiend and NMiC. 4 is just not enough. =)
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#49 Bloody_qq

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 09:57 PM

I was listing on demand damage cooldowns, how many of the above does damage?


I heard readyness does damage, k..and many other.
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#50 Mewee

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 10:09 PM

I heard readyness does damage, k..and many other.

Readyness refreshes all your instant shots, so it's one of your best burst cooldowns, even excluding the fact that it also resets rapid fire.
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#51 Midna

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 10:11 PM

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 10:33 PM

Good idea.

It's funny how people are using how much damage shadow priests can put out at the moment in order to try and justify their position on what shadow priest's should get in cataclysm. There is no link.
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#53 Fauxy

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 10:37 PM

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Fuckin r3tards in this thread, like im all for other classes giving input but that requires you to not be dumber than dicks, my favorite part is the retards making fun of the other retards in this thread, you practically do the job for me

example:

I heard readyness does damage, k..and many other.


how dumb are you

because we know you're dumb

the question is just how dumb

If damage vs. health pool ratios stay the same and no changes are made to any classes then sure, bitch all you want about the idea of PI becoming baseline. Too bad that won't happen so stfu and [email protected]
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#54 Calx

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 10:59 PM

i'm pretty sure you're doing it wrong - and i'm certain by "globalling" it means once all 3 dots are up combined with a MB + SW:D combo that can do stupidly high damage.

No, spriests doesn't need another "burst on use" - they do already have high enough damage.


did u know it takes longer than a global to apply all those dots and then mb+swd with all of them up still
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#55 Lutheus

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 12:37 AM

did u know it takes longer than a global to apply all those dots and then mb+swd with all of them up still


Global means dead within the "proverbial" global. It doesn't matter if the ramp up time is 1 minute, if you die in one second then that is a global.

It is a ridiculous notion that you count the entire time it takes to apply all the spells. Do you count the time it takes for a destruction lock to CoE, immolate and then fear the target?




I think shadowpriests are already very cooldown orientated; it has been brushed upon but shadowfiend, silence, horror, fear, bloodlust etc etc and the damage cooldown would probably be too much when used in conjunction.
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#56 Theed

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 01:11 AM

power infusion would be great.. but we are already getting new methods and things for burst - called mindspike.
It freezes damage and when cast 2 times in a row Mindblast becomes instant.
When Mindblast is used the frozen damage is activated.
Dont ask for numbers they are not final.

I would love to see some new things like our spell from classic beta.Sleep!
Sleep would fit good for a Shadowpriest.
I think that is what Shadowpriest currently lacks of. A spammable CC.
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#57 tidâl

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 01:22 AM

Roll a mage if you want icy veins, period.
Both Disc and SP do decent damage already.


Agreed
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#58 jizoke

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 01:26 AM

idk inner focus is a pretty great dps cooldown as it is


25% crit is pretty sick.
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Posted 24 July 2010 - 02:37 AM

25% crit is pretty sick.

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#60 Mewee

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Posted 24 July 2010 - 02:41 AM

idk inner focus is a pretty great dps cooldown as it is


Hope that was a joke :P
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