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#1 Razorscythe

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 03:54 AM

http://talent.mmo-ch.../?rogue#,,12479

it's sad, you cannot get Preparation  neither elusiveness as assassination, GG blizzard
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#2 Rensy

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 03:55 AM

i don't think it's very possible to say friend

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 03:56 AM

I hope so, mutilate is terribly boring in wrath.

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 04:00 AM

well I would understand that Prep would not be reachable by 100% since blizz mentioned they gonna reduce base CDS (maybe the said), but making elusiveness Non reachable as assassination is retarded.

and if you think subtlety tree will be fun I don't think so, All I see JUST a BLEED, if I wanted bleeds I would go feral >_>

I don't like the direction where is rogue going to, will we end up as Combat rogues and look like warriors with that 50% increased armor lulz :S?
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 04:11 AM

I think I read somewhere about them wanting to make Preparation a tier 2 talent and accessible by all specs.

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 04:14 AM

Solleks said:

I think I read somewhere about them wanting to make Preparation a tier 2 talent and accessible by all specs.

I think they said that for soul link mejt :s
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 04:35 AM

fuck yes

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 04:36 AM

prep and elusiveness are hardly mandatory.

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 04:39 AM

Literacola said:

prep and elusiveness are hardly mandatory.

litercola!!! please make a blog about these new rogue talent changes, and your opinion about the best arena tree posibility :D
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 08:25 AM

That looks like every rogue spec except for sub will be sitting ducks.
They even removed sprint cd reduction in combat — how the hell will we get to our targets?
Both cloak, sprint and vanish will be used once per game for both combat and muti.
Now compare that to charge-intercept-heroic leap every 10-15 seconds or whatever.

Hope its going to change.
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 09:03 AM

Lieto said:

That looks like every rogue spec except for sub will be sitting ducks.
They even removed sprint cd reduction in combat — how the hell will we get to our targets?
Both cloak, sprint and vanish will be used once per game for both combat and muti.
Now compare that to charge-intercept-heroic leap every 10-15 seconds or whatever.

Hope its going to change.

http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/79095/


Your damaging finishing moves reduce the cooldown of your Adrenaline Rush, Killing Spree, and Sprint abilities by 2 sec per combo point.

combat may be nice

but mutilate is horrible without it :P and subtletly is like 'BLEED' pve spec or something
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 09:33 AM

Going 3/7/31 looks decent, all the sub talents (choose between waylay and cheat death) imp recuperate/precision/imp sprint and imp evis. If sub damage is made a bit less balanced around backstab/dance, that's ok with me
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 09:34 AM

Koshchei said:

Going 3/7/31 looks decent, all the sub talents (choose between waylay and cheat death) imp recuperate/precision/imp sprint and imp evis. If sub damage is made a bit less balanced around backstab/dance, that's ok with me

I doubt the dmg will be ok and we will be forced to 'bleed' warriors..etc :?
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 09:36 AM

Rogues just look like shit in Cataclysm

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 09:38 AM

Szhi said:

Rogues just look like shit in Cataclysm

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 09:42 AM

Razorscythe said:

I doubt the dmg will be ok and we will be forced to 'bleed' warriors..etc :?

Well that's just speculation at the moment, I think the Sub masteries were armor pen and bleed damage so it might be ok, but I agree with you, first look at the trees is pretty disappointing
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 09:43 AM

Koshchei said:

Well that's just speculation at the moment, I think the Sub masteries were armor pen and bleed damage so it might be ok, but I agree with you, first look at the trees is pretty disappointing

yes it is Disappointing
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 10:07 AM

Mutilate is the ability gained by specializing in the Assassination tree as Shadow Step is gained by specializing in the Subtlety tree.

As for the bleeds in Sub., I think Blizzard had said a while back that they were trying to use them as a way for Subtlety to compete in PvE? I could be mistaken. I don't really like the idea of having the rely on bleeds, but there is always the option to skip those sort of talents. How well the tree will work trying to bypass it's "main" focus only time will tell. I would be in favor of all those bleed talents being changed to favor armor pen instead ha ha.

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 10:10 AM

Durotann said:

Mutilate is the ability gained by specializing in the Assassination tree as Shadow Step is gained by specializing in the Subtlety tree.

As for the bleeds in Sub., I think Blizzard had said a while back that they were trying to use them as a way for Subtlety to compete in PvE? I could be mistaken. I don't really like the idea of having the rely on bleeds, but there is always the option to skip those sort of talents. How well the tree will work trying to bypass it's "main" focus only time will tell. I would be in favor of all those bleed talents being changed to favor armor pen instead ha ha.

armor pen as stat won't exist only talents will give armor penetration or abilities and mastery, but that won't be high amount I really doubt
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 10:14 AM

The trees aren't done. Stop making these retarded topics.




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