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#41 Calx

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 09:41 PM

nothing i said in my post was incorrect, rank 16 does like 10000x more damage so y would you use rank 1? the mana cost is about the same as well if im not mistaken, did they change that?


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Posted 10 July 2010 - 01:33 PM

nothing i said in my post was incorrect, rank 16 does like 10000x more damage so y would you use rank 1? the mana cost is about the same as well if im not mistaken, did they change that?


nvm wotlk arcane mage
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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:33 PM

nvm wotlk arcane mage


doesnt make my facts wrong :D



dispels will cost more so you wont need to cover your sheeps as heavily as before, stop crying about R1 frostbolt
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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:36 PM

nice avatar


ty :)
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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:39 PM

The damage output is somewhat very low and i really don't know why is being keept so low even for arcane


The damage output is low for arcane


Not sure if.....
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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:41 PM

Not sure if.....


i think the guy u quoted is a better troll than me lol, hes taking it to a whole nother level
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Posted 10 July 2010 - 04:55 PM

doesnt make my facts wrong :D



dispels will cost more so you wont need to cover your sheeps as heavily as before, stop crying about R1 frostbolt


Not like r1 frost bolt is a cheap and quick snare / cover up for sheep and can trigger fof or bf.
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Posted 11 July 2010 - 01:47 AM

Not like r1 frost bolt is a cheap and quick snare / cover up for sheep and can trigger fof or bf.


which is exactly y they are taking it out
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Posted 11 July 2010 - 02:00 AM

That is not why they're taking it out
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Posted 11 July 2010 - 04:56 AM

doesnt make my facts wrong :D



dispels will cost more so you wont need to cover your sheeps as heavily as before, stop crying about R1 frostbolt


Somebody report this kid for trolling plz.
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Posted 12 July 2010 - 06:25 PM

i think the guy u quoted is a better troll than me lol, hes taking it to a whole nother level



I'm not a troll. Get your facts right. Have you tried playing arcane mage on live without 4pc T10.5 and other PVE shiiiit?? In normal circumstances the arcane dmg output-survivability-utility ratio is somewhat low compared to other classes/specs.

I was speaking in my previous post about the CAta beta situation: our survivability didn't improved by much (from arcane perspective) neither the damage.

SO why i'm trolling???
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#52 Pownmeisterz

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 12:31 AM

For half the people who are too stubborn to look it up, blizzard is removing rank 1 abilities in an effort to dumb down the game. Their reasoning is that newer players won't notice that the secondary effects of an ability are worth sacrificing damage for a faster cast. People here are upset that blizzard is adding another drop to the "dipshit" bucket, where the only rationale was that it was too many buttons(not that it was overpowered or unfair).

The same thing can be said about SC2, they removed gliding shots(using the units inertia), pretty much killed the micro game by cluttering up the viewing area, and a small one being the feel for the game(everything looks cartoony, moving away from the practical look of units in sc1). Activision has yet to make an awesome game, and I'm actually growing weary as to how CoD black ops is going to end up, since its their company team that's up to bat.
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#53 Stilgarv2

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 08:31 PM

coz it's hard to cleanse

cuz that was the point



NOT
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Posted 13 July 2010 - 08:39 PM

which is exactly y they are taking it out


This is not why they're removing it, rofl

p.s stop posting alread.
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Posted 18 July 2010 - 02:13 PM

If you're scared about covering sheeps, i'm pretty sure WC won't cover sheeps anymore


Is this true? CBF looking it up, but if so.... devs
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 01:15 AM

Don't worry you will have slow!
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 04:34 PM

Is this true? CBF looking it up, but if so.... devs

WC doesn't exist anymore
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 05:42 PM

WC doesn't exist anymore


This is correct.

They are changing the whole dispel system. They are removing trash buffs, dispel resist, and possibly more. Blue stated that dispels would be more costly in cataclysm, what exactly that entails is unknown atm.

Until we get more information on how the new dispel system is going to work, its hard to determine how important things like wc and r1 frost bolt will be.
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#59 Vilerose

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:05 PM

Until we get more information on how the new dispel system is going to work, its hard to determine how important things like wc and r1 frost bolt will be.


It's pretty obvious this will lower mage skill cap, destroy all independent peeling abilities, and make mages ridiculously reliant on playing with other classes that have spammable cc in cata (to cc dispeller at same time).
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 06:24 PM

It's pretty obvious this will lower mage skill cap, destroy all independent peeling abilities, and make mages ridiculously reliant on playing with other classes that have spammable cc in cata (to cc dispeller at same time).


Since we do not know enough about the new dispel system, you can not say for certain than any skill cap is being decreased.

Do not act like its hard to put up winter's chill.

If defensive dispels have a short cd, it could actually raise the mage skill cap.

Until we know more about the new dispel system, and what blizzard means when they say increased cost for dispels, you cannot make wild accusations like that.

Auto applying trash debuffs and rng are not fun.
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