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#41 Lutheus

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 05:05 PM

whats the CD on Soul Harvest (sorry if im blind and this is there somewhere)


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Posted 08 July 2010 - 05:10 PM

fuck me thats good.
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 05:41 PM

fuck me thats good.

Yeah in a way, although I think the OOC requirement will rape us in arena if it stays.
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 05:59 PM

Really only one thing to say about warlocks in Cata

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 06:09 PM

if you reapplied it just before the last tick, the new tick will be at the place of the last tick

so in that case, <1sec


Yeah that's clear to me but what happens if you dont get it before the last tick? The Tick is lost would be what i think but the other variant would be a pleasant surprise ^^
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 06:18 PM

Great info, thanks bud.
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 06:54 PM

Yeah in a way, although I think the OOC requirement will rape us in arena if it stays.


They have to change that, maybe give soul harvest a longer CD, like 2-3 minutes.

Otherwise, as someone stated before, it'll just devolve into hurr keep the warlock in combat durr. that doesn't sound like much fun!:(
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 07:48 PM

Really only one thing to say about warlocks in Cata

Spoiler


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Posted 08 July 2010 - 07:54 PM

Yeah that's clear to me but what happens if you dont get it before the last tick? The Tick is lost would be what i think but the other variant would be a pleasant surprise ^^


it's impossible, there cannot be a wasted duration after the last tick, if you don't have enough haste for additional ticks, the spell will end earlier than 18 seconds
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 09:45 PM

it's impossible, there cannot be a wasted duration after the last tick, if you don't have enough haste for additional ticks, the spell will end earlier than 18 seconds

I thought someone said that there was the "dead" duration, where the spell continues to the full 18s even if there isn't another tick.


Oh by the way, can anyone confirm how Bane of agony acts in Cata. If it is refreshed before the full duration, do the ticks still continue ticking high or does it completely refresh the spell? -Also does refreshing it restart the tick timer? (as it does on live)
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Posted 09 July 2010 - 07:03 AM

man i want a beta key :(
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Posted 09 July 2010 - 07:46 AM

so glad I have an alt warlock
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Posted 09 July 2010 - 07:48 AM

so glad I have an alt warlock


too bad he's not a glad
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#54 Lutheus

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 03:15 PM

Man I can't wait until the next beta build with all the 31 pt changes... us warlocks have been so starved of info! (doesn't help that my alt if a holy paladin which has gotten precious little either).
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Posted 09 July 2010 - 04:06 PM

In no particular order.

Update 2: 80 to 81

  • Corruption costs 200 mana. I felt this was worth mentioning because it deals more damage than mobs have health, and your mp5 regen covers the cost of casting it. You don't even need to Life Tap while grinding.
  • The health lost from Life Tap is basically insignificant. It's 3.7% of my max health for 4k mana talented.
  • All dots can crit now. This includes channeled dots like Drain Life and Drain Soul. Non-channeled dots crit for 200%. Channeled dots crit for 150%. If your Drain Life crits, the healing portion also crits.
  • From what I can tell, Health Funnel scales with haste.
  • Detect Invisibility is still a magic effect. Unending Breath is still undispellable.
  • You can't cross realIDs from beta to WoW.
  • For some reason I have insane amounts of mp5. Could be a beta thing. It doesn't show on the char sheet but I've not had to cast Life Tap once so far.
  • Soulburn is off the GCD.
  • Channeled dots/hots all last their full, 0 haste duration. More haste just adds more ticks. This seems to be why I'm seeing 4 ticks of Soul Harvest and additional Health Funnel ticks.
    -------Level-------
  • So I hit 81. Here are my stats, before and after.
    Level 80
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    Level 81
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  • Stat changes (with demo talents):
    • +2964hp
    • +1610mp
    • -11.33% haste (1248 haste rating)
    • -10.13% crit (1081 crit rating)
    • -3.55% hit (313 hit rating)
  • Fel Flame (YouTube -> )
    • 30 yard range base. 36 with destro talents.
    • Hits for around 1800-2200.
    • It's instant. I just have 400ms on the beta server.
  • It took me roughly 2 hours to gain that level. You need 3mil xp for 80-81. You need 4mil for 81-82.


Update 1: First Impressions
  • Everything is taken with a fresh char copy to the beta realm (so I'm still 80).
  • 34k health in PvE gear. 12k more than live.
  • 29k mana in PvE gear. 2k more than live.
  • 8k armour unbuffed.
  • Lost no haste, yet.
  • 33k health in PvP gear. Yeah, 1k less than ICC gear.
  • Soul Harvest heals for about 1800 per tick and looks like Evocation.
  • Soulburn has a 30 sec cd and gives you a 10 sec buff that gives you secondary spell effects.
  • If you don't use a spell in that 10 second window, you lose the buff and do not get your shard back.
  • There are no low ranks of Life Tap.
  • You can Soulburn-Summon pets midair. It's fully instant now.
  • Soulburn-Demonic Circle gives you an 8 second sprint buff. The best spell ever just got more awesome.
  • Soul Shards do not regenerate at all. Has to be done through Soul Harvest.
  • The Felhunter makes a really annoying sound when it moves, like a, well, a dog.
  • You gain a shard every 2 seconds of channeling Harvest Soul, contrary to what the tooltip says. The spell lasts 9 seconds, and the heal ticks every 2 seconds, 4 ticks.
  • Logging off and on again restores all your shards.
  • All warlock talent trees are currently just identical to live. Even Fel Domination is still there.
  • Respecing still removes your pet, casted armour and mana.
  • 38k health/31k mana in PvE gear with demo talents.
  • Tooltips update dynamically. They tell you exact values given talents and your current spellpower.
  • There is only 1 rank of Healthstone. It restores 60% of the creator's base hp. It does not cost a shard.
  • Soulburn-Healthstone gives you 20% max health and lasts just 8 seconds.
  • On that note, every other spell that used to use a shard, now doesn't. Even pet summons and Soul Fire.
  • Infernal and Doomguard still require reagents.
  • Drain Soul doesn't restore shards per tick anymore. However, it does restore all 3 shards if you are channeling and your target dies.
  • Curse of Weakness reduces target's physical damage by 10% untalented. Improved Curse of Weakness still says attack power reduce. If you talent it, the tooltip changes to -12% physical.
  • Curse of Elements is only 8%.
  • Demon Skin (low level version of Demon Armor) is gone.
  • Hellfire still kills the warlock.
  • Female blood elf voice acting is really annoying.
  • Fel Intelligence doesn't give int and spirit anymore. It's max mana and mp5 now.
  • Whiplash (new succubus spell) works like mage pet nova, costs 87 mana and looks like Shadowfury.
  • I just insta-Soulfired a bunny for 11k. Yeah, affliction burst hi.
  • Soulburn-Fear is gone.

I'll add more as I play.


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Posted 09 July 2010 - 04:52 PM

In no particular order.

Update 2: 80 to 81

  • Corruption costs 200 mana. I felt this was worth mentioning because it deals more damage than mobs have health, and your mp5 regen covers the cost of casting it. You don't even need to Life Tap while grinding.
  • The health lost from Life Tap is basically insignificant. It's 3.7% of my max health for 4k mana talented.
  • All dots can crit now. This includes channeled dots like Drain Life and Drain Soul. Non-channeled dots crit for 200%. Channeled dots crit for 150%. If your Drain Life crits, the healing portion also crits.
  • From what I can tell, Health Funnel scales with haste.
  • Detect Invisibility is still a magic effect. Unending Breath is still undispellable.
  • You can't cross realIDs from beta to WoW.
  • For some reason I have insane amounts of mp5. Could be a beta thing. It doesn't show on the char sheet but I've not had to cast Life Tap once so far.
  • Soulburn is off the GCD.
  • Channeled dots/hots all last their full, 0 haste duration. More haste just adds more ticks. This seems to be why I'm seeing 4 ticks of Soul Harvest and additional Health Funnel ticks.
    -------Level-------
  • So I hit 81. Here are my stats, before and after.
    Level 80
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    Level 81
    Posted Image
  • Stat changes (with demo talents):
    • +2964hp
    • +1610mp
    • -11.33% haste (1248 haste rating)
    • -10.13% crit (1081 crit rating)
    • -3.55% hit (313 hit rating)
  • Fel Flame (YouTube -> )
    • 30 yard range base. 36 with destro talents.
    • Hits for around 1800-2200.
    • It's instant. I just have 400ms on the beta server.
  • It took me roughly 2 hours to gain that level. You need 3mil xp for 80-81. You need 4mil for 81-82.


Update 1: First Impressions
  • Everything is taken with a fresh char copy to the beta realm (so I'm still 80).
  • 34k health in PvE gear. 12k more than live.
  • 29k mana in PvE gear. 2k more than live.
  • 8k armour unbuffed.
  • Lost no haste, yet.
  • 33k health in PvP gear. Yeah, 1k less than ICC gear.
  • Soul Harvest heals for about 1800 per tick and looks like Evocation.
  • Soulburn has a 30 sec cd and gives you a 10 sec buff that gives you secondary spell effects.
  • If you don't use a spell in that 10 second window, you lose the buff and do not get your shard back.
  • There are no low ranks of Life Tap.
  • You can Soulburn-Summon pets midair. It's fully instant now.
  • Soulburn-Demonic Circle gives you an 8 second sprint buff. The best spell ever just got more awesome.
  • Soul Shards do not regenerate at all. Has to be done through Soul Harvest.
  • The Felhunter makes a really annoying sound when it moves, like a, well, a dog.
  • You gain a shard every 2 seconds of channeling Harvest Soul, contrary to what the tooltip says. The spell lasts 9 seconds, and the heal ticks every 2 seconds, 4 ticks.
  • Logging off and on again restores all your shards.
  • All warlock talent trees are currently just identical to live. Even Fel Domination is still there.
  • Respecing still removes your pet, casted armour and mana.
  • 38k health/31k mana in PvE gear with demo talents.
  • Tooltips update dynamically. They tell you exact values given talents and your current spellpower.
  • There is only 1 rank of Healthstone. It restores 60% of the creator's base hp. It does not cost a shard.
  • Soulburn-Healthstone gives you 20% max health and lasts just 8 seconds.
  • On that note, every other spell that used to use a shard, now doesn't. Even pet summons and Soul Fire.
  • Infernal and Doomguard still require reagents.
  • Drain Soul doesn't restore shards per tick anymore. However, it does restore all 3 shards if you are channeling and your target dies.
  • Curse of Weakness reduces target's physical damage by 10% untalented. Improved Curse of Weakness still says attack power reduce. If you talent it, the tooltip changes to -12% physical.
  • Curse of Elements is only 8%.
  • Demon Skin (low level version of Demon Armor) is gone.
  • Hellfire still kills the warlock.
  • Female blood elf voice acting is really annoying.
  • Fel Intelligence doesn't give int and spirit anymore. It's max mana and mp5 now.
  • Whiplash (new succubus spell) works like mage pet nova, costs 87 mana and looks like Shadowfury.
  • I just insta-Soulfired a bunny for 11k. Yeah, affliction burst hi.
  • Soulburn-Fear is gone.

I'll add more as I play.


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#57 Kluian

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 12:53 AM

Did the two of you really need to quote the entire post just to say "+rep"? Did you even need to make posts solely to say you were repping someone?

Both of those questions are rhetorical.
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Posted 10 July 2010 - 12:55 AM

Did the two of you really need to quote the entire post just to say "+rep"? Did you even need to make posts solely to say you were repping someone?

Both of those questions are rhetorical.


yes.
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#59 Eay

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 01:18 AM

Thank you so much for taking your time with this Tya.

Can we get this stickied, mods? Thanks in advance :)
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#60 Kluian

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 01:54 AM

Both of those questions are rhetorical.


Don't be an idiot. No one but you cares that you're giving out rep. Adding "+rep" to the end of a post with some actual substance is one thing (though I even find that to be unnecessary, but w/e), but posting just to say you're repping someone is just unnecessary, and arguably, off topic.
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