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#21 nim

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 03:13 AM

Still pretty bad next to most other mastery talents.
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:01 AM

You should update the original post with changes to piercing ice. Getting changed from 2/4/6% frost damage increase to 2/4/6% crit chance increase on frostbolt/IL/FFB.
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 05:14 AM

I hope they clean up arctic winds. the reduced CD of CoC seems fun, but on Nova it seems like it is clunky. if you are below 35 percent, usually you have used your novas or are using them, so you will be hitting people with a very short or immune nova.

removing frostbite seems reasonable with the CoC talent.
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#24 Revert

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 05:22 AM

so shatter was nerfed...... hmm
edit: hmm i thought i editted earlier but maybe it didnt save, anyways, affix is streaming and shatter is changed from +50% crit to......+15% dmg on frozen targets
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#25 nim

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 05:52 AM

Huh? Shatter looks the same to me.
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 05:54 AM

editted, dont know why it didnt save the first time
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#27 nim

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 06:13 AM

15%? That's a pretty massive nerf. Like the idea of it being a straight damage buff though.
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 06:14 AM

i agree, but like you said it'd be nice to have it a bit higher
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 09:38 AM

With all these nice changes we have to keep in mind the shatter mechanic. (it no longer causes 50% crit chance on our spells when frozen etc, but now just a flat +15% dmg)Dunno how I feel about that. While I love pretty much all of the new fancy stuff we get (CoC looks absolutely amazing) but taking away our shatters crit takes away so much of what the mage class was, a setup burst class. There is no way in hell +15% dmg is compensation. Obviously we are still in alpha so there is still going to be drastic changes flying back and forth, but one could only hope for the best. Bringing the shatter we have now back.

Edit: didn't read the last few posts :( but I suppose i'll still leave my 2cents.
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#30 Xessi

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 03:10 PM

so many appealing talents now, i cant decide what i want...

quick spec so far:
http://www.wowtal.co...6tVjEo.9gq.mage

thoughts?

Arctic winds + imp blink = 60% miss sub 35% hp :D



I'd put 2 pts from Enduring winter into Chillend to the Bone and Frost Warding into Early Frost
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 03:54 PM

I'm a sad panda. How can we kill anything without good-old shatter? :<
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:19 PM

Well it's a good change in theory. Having Shatter be a flat percentage means that it won't be a coin flip anymore, you'll always be doing more damage and when you do crit it'll be all the bigger.

Just needs to be more than 15%. Something like 25-30 would be more reasonable.
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:20 PM

Question: Didnt they remove frost/fire ward in cataclism? Which makes the talent frostwarding useless.
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:21 PM

Question: Didnt they remove frost/fire ward in cataclism? Which makes the talent frostwarding useless.

They added "mage ward" which covers frost, fire, and arcane.
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#35 nim

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:24 PM

They added "mage ward" which covers frost, fire, and arcane.


Which is awesome by the way. I've always wanted an Arcane Ward.

Fuck Druids.
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:27 PM

They added "mage ward" which covers frost, fire, and arcane.


ah, thanks.

How good do you guys think 'early frost' and 'spreading chill' is?

Personally i don't think spreading chill is worth spending.
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#37 nim

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Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:33 PM

Early Frost will probably be a must have. Haste ++

The big question about Spreading Chill is whether or not the extra snares will proc Fingers of Frost. If yes, it could be a pretty good talent.
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:38 PM

Question: Didnt they remove frost/fire ward in cataclism? Which makes the talent frostwarding useless.


As its been said before, they added mage ward, which covers frost fire and arcane, which makes frost warding even more retarded than it is now (as it will apply the 30% chance mana restore and absorb to 3 schools of magic).

Early Frost will probably be a must have. Haste ++

The big question about Spreading Chill is whether or not the extra snares will proc Fingers of Frost. If yes, it could be a pretty good talent.


Currently spreading chill does... which would seem much more devastating then 0.5 seconds off 1 frostbolt every 15 seconds.

If only we had more talent points to spend, :(
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:52 PM

Need more talent points ffs
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Posted 01 July 2010 - 04:56 PM

Need more talent points ffs


Yeah:/

I miss atleast 4-6 points to get everything i'd like to have ;)
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