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#1 Arias

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 10:27 PM

I don't know if I'm missing something here, but I did some SS testing recently (someone had told me that with Divine Guardian, the SS coefficient gets bumped to 90%) and my SS is absorbing far more than I had expected, with either 75% or 90% coefficient.

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My SS proc absorbed 4655 damage.

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My SS proc absorbed 4744 damage.

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Again, my SS proc absorbs 4655 damage.

I have 3462 SP with kings. With 75% coefficient and DG, my SS should be absorbing 3196 damage. With 90% coefficient, my SS should be absorbing 3715.

Am I just retarded or something here? Is there a buff I'm missing? What the hell is going on?

#2 Arias

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 11:07 PM

Well, I did a 2v2 match and it only absorbed 3338. So I'm not sure what's going on here.

edit: 3338 after the 10% healing debuff points to a 90% coefficient, which is around 3700 max absorb. So a bit higher than previously thought, but not really that much.

#3 Arias

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 11:22 PM

laceration said:

heals/absorbs r 10% less in arenas dumazz

yeah, but that's not going to account for nearly 1200 absorb difference. Something else is happening here for my SS to absorb that much out of arena.

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 11:22 PM

Without 2/2 Divine Guardian :

75% of your spellpower + 500

with 2/2 Divine Guardian, here its a bit more difficult. It increases the damages it absorbs by 20%, i thought it was

75% of your spellpower + 600

though im pretty sure its more like

75% of your spellpower ( +20% of that number ) + 600

dont know if clear or not.. btw purge is also overpowered, mister rogue.

Zotan said:

TSG shouldn't win against an equally skilled LSD but 99% of all LSDs are super retarded so it's quite easy to zerg the druid from start to finish.

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 11:37 PM

Mightlol said:

Without 2/2 Divine Guardian :

75% of your spellpower + 500

with 2/2 Divine Guardian, here its a bit more difficult. It increases the damages it absorbs by 20%, i thought it was

75% of your spellpower + 600

though im pretty sure its more like

75% of your spellpower ( +20% of that number ) + 600

dont know if clear or not.. btw purge is also overpowered, mister rogue.

That would give me about 3700 absorb too, which is what it should be extrapolating from the numbers I get inside an arena. I'm not entirely sure why it's so high outside arena and normal inside arena.

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 11:37 PM

It's too bad it's half as good when you're ret.

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 11:45 PM

Arias said:


I have 3462 SP with kings.

Assuming you've 2/2 Divine Guardian :

3462 / 100 x 75 = 2596.5

2596.5 / 5 = 519.3

2596.5 + 519.3 + 600 = 3715.8

maybe did you have any inte/spellpower buff, i dont know ? :z

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TSG shouldn't win against an equally skilled LSD but 99% of all LSDs are super retarded so it's quite easy to zerg the druid from start to finish.

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 11:45 PM

Seekay said:

It's too bad it's half as good when you're ret.

y its complete crap as ret z_z

Zotan said:

TSG shouldn't win against an equally skilled LSD but 99% of all LSDs are super retarded so it's quite easy to zerg the druid from start to finish.

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 11:47 PM

Arias said:

That would give me about 3700 absorb too, which is what it should be extrapolating from the numbers I get inside an arena. I'm not entirely sure why it's so high outside arena and normal inside arena.

According to ElitistJerks, the formula is exactly 75% sp + 500, though no formula with Divine Guardian

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TSG shouldn't win against an equally skilled LSD but 99% of all LSDs are super retarded so it's quite easy to zerg the druid from start to finish.

#10 Mionee

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 12:06 AM

do you really need a new formula to increase some nubmer by 20%

damn

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 12:18 AM

Arterian said:

no surprise to anyone damaging into ss

Someone is butthurt. Though thank you for sharing your thoughts on the Paladin forum.




Anyway I just tried outside in a duel, and with 3730 spellpower it absorbed almost 4.000.

So somehow you got your SS to bug. I am sure there is a logical explination though. Try to go outside IF, do not be grouped or use any seals, then try to see how much it absorbs from a Lavaburst or so while sitting down.

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:o i didnt c wat u did thar, could you explain for us dumb ppl?

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 12:24 AM

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 12:27 AM

yea, with your spell power your SS should absorb 3715~ outside of arena (which you stated). Thats really wierd.
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Posted 28 June 2010 - 12:44 AM

Mightlol said:

dont know if clear or not.. btw purge is also overpowered, mister rogue.

purge has the same chance of removing sacred shield as mass dispel has of getting bubble off (lol)

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 12:45 AM

mine is absorbing the normal amount while in arena but a little over 1000 more than it should when im outside. obviously thats way more than just the 10% healing/asborb penalty of arenas so I guess its just another bug. I remember back in s5 or s6 I tried blessed life in a duel in the dalaran sewers and it never proc at all after 10-15mins of testing it but it worked just fine in arenas

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 12:52 AM

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 02:22 AM

They probably didn't fix the ICC buff bug correctly. I haven't bothered to look into it much to confirm this though.

(For those unaware, the "increased shield" portion of the icecrown aura was persisting outside of the zone once you had zoned in that week. This was supposedly fixed a short while back.)

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 02:26 AM

Arterian said:

no surprise to anyone damaging into ss

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 02:51 AM

I wish mine was bugged and absorbed more than it should.

btw how did rend "Miss" but cause 1k damage?

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 04:43 AM

"this increases the number by 20%"
"HOW DO I FACTOR THAT IN TO THE SPELL??"




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