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[Heroes of Newerth] Waste of $30


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#21 Steef

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 03:37 PM

it's cause the crowd follows the crowd, instead of banning counters ( example: banning vindicator if you want tempest ).
If I get to ban in pubs, i usually ban the ss/cd/chip etc. Not ebcause they're op, but because my teammates will probaly feed those heroes.

in 5v5 play it kinda depends. We usually bd there these days. Sure it's not competive and not balanced yadayada but my team isn't 2200 material so we don't give-a-shit
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 03:51 PM

.......................................... ye chipper/fayde/hb/engi are NEVER picked in high tier games right
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 04:21 PM

I never said that. Do you know WHY they are picked? And don't blow the 'hurdurr' overpowered without mentioning why they are overpowered. And no, "pros pick them" does not make the hero overpowered.
and FFS I can't even remember the last progame I saw without magmus. Guess I should ban that op hero too huh? :/
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 04:25 PM

you guys forgot about chronos being banned every game

hilarious in dota to be an unstoppable killing machine with void
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 04:27 PM

also, they didn't even port the fun heroes that makes dota fun

puck, weaver, techies, etc
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 04:28 PM

they've ported puck
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 04:33 PM

you guys forgot about chronos being banned every game

hilarious in dota to be an unstoppable killing machine with void


no hes not
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 04:35 PM

chipper is op because he has 560burst dmg at level 7 + his ult + massive slow + slow through magic immunity with staff aswell as a 600 dmg shield, if you dont see how that is op youre fucking retarded

engi is overpowered because his every skill is fucking awesome, his keg is easy to hit on several people, his tinker ability is the single best ability for pushed in the entire game, his turret is easily one of the top 5 carries in the game and his ulti is baller as fuck

fayde fkn rapes about anyone since she does close to 1k dmg to everyone in range with her at level 10 - ye

dont really need to motivate hb i guess HEH
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 04:38 PM

Thing about Engi is that he just fits in so well in any team aswell.

He can:

-Carry (Turret with Thunderclaw etc)
-Push (Tinker on enemy towers + turret)
-Antipush (Tinker on your own towers)
-Ganking (Has a good stun for ganking)
-Strong teamfight pressence (his ultimate obviously)
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 04:39 PM

And yeah, Chipper the fact that you can stand next to someone and burst him down in melee range is kinda stupid
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 04:50 PM

I never said that. Do you know WHY they are picked? And don't blow the 'hurdurr' overpowered without mentioning why they are overpowered. And no, "pros pick them" does not make the hero overpowered.
and FFS I can't even remember the last progame I saw without magmus. Guess I should ban that op hero too huh? :/


please stop
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 05:07 PM

they've ported puck


oh shit

time to buy and try?

no hes not


every matchmaking game i've played (about 15 or so games?)

i dunno how rankings and the ladder system works for HoN but every all pick game, chronos, tempest gets banned
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 05:15 PM

ye in the 1600 bracket sup, doesnt mean they are overpowered
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 05:16 PM

ye in the 1600 bracket sup, doesnt mean they are overpowered


it takes me fucking FOREVER to find items and their counterparts in HoN compared to dota so i could never really do shit as fast as i can in wc3 but void in wc3 is pretty much unstoppable and can 5v1 anything as long as he has mask of madness and chronosphere

i figured he was the same in hon
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 05:36 PM

[quote name='That'dBeMe']chipper is op because he has 560burst dmg at level 7 + his ult + massive slow + slow through magic immunity with staff aswell as a 600 dmg shield, if you dont see how that is op youre fucking retarded
[/quote] He doesn't have r4 rockets, 600dmg shields, massive slow and sotm at level 7. That'd be overpowered. Saying that, he's an earlygame hero. After level 16 he does shit damage and becomes a supporter so all those awesome kills he made matter less.

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engi is overpowered because his every skill is fucking awesome, his keg is easy to hit on several people, his tinker ability is the single best ability for pushed in the entire game, his turret is easily one of the top 5 carries in the game and his ulti is baller as fuck[/quote]
I won't deny he's strong, but you're giving him a bit too much credit saying his turret outcarries 90% of hon heroes. He's firstpicked because he fits in every setup. He's banned because his pushing goes against the commen turtlingcarry strategy. He's not overpowered. He's just a flexible hero that counters a lot of popular setups.He's icing the cake, but not being the cake, if you get my drift.
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Fayde is a ganker. Pebbles does the same shit but it looks more skillfull when he does it.
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dont really need to motivate hb i guess HEH[/QUOTE]
HB is overpowered



on another note; never noticed that people generally ban earlygame heroes? They get ganked for by them and can't reach their potentional endgame cause of it. You just have to prevent that from happening and suck it through because most bans (slither,chipper,fayde,prefix maliken) are barely decent when feeded, but absolute shit when not.


post above: there are hon-to-dota addons for that. And void/chronos is insane 1v1. But let someone sheepstick him in his portal or just nuke the shit out of it and he's toasted.
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 05:49 PM

pub

actually cc a void


oh u
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 05:56 PM

You know, you can cc aswell?
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Posted 25 May 2010 - 05:58 PM

ye by perma stunlocking :(
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 12:12 AM

as long as chipper has some decent gold per minute he will be fairly strong although not as strong in lategame as he is mid-early, a good chipper is a nightmare to lane against
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 01:24 AM

chipper is amazing at all points throughout the game.
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