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#21 unifin

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 11:24 AM

Earthquake seems to be channeled, and I'm sure it'll cost quite a bit of mana. Not exactly DnD glyph of RoV falling through floor funsies.
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#22 Rodix

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 12:00 PM

I play enhacement shammy on my alt and i probobly gonna try with this spec, think i made it pretty well...the new talents seems fun. Lava Lash i think its gonna be pretty powerful, or atleast they are tying to make it better.

http://talent.mmo-ch...ooHzmUus,,11927
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#23 kthnos1

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 12:03 PM

you forgot to mention the huge increase in lava lash dmg eventually cause doing 600 dmg with lava lash now is so lame.very nice buffs for enhancement they are buffing ss dmg also i think enhancement will be new retri of s5 now with 20% ms instead of 50.
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#24 Ohyi

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 01:07 PM

Elemental one is lame really

Resto, well, sound lovely. The damage reduction seems nice, but I doubt it's going to solve much with melee anyway, as we need to fakecast/run away in GW to get anything off.
The mana reduc+heal increase just sounds, wow :o


The mana cost of the heal is reduced by 75% of the mana cost of the shock. So if you take Shamanistic focus it will be worse (if it doesn't take base mana cost of shocks).
Base mana (WoTLK) is around 6k (if I have to believe chardev.org). Windshear cost 8% of base mana, thats 480 mana for a wind shear (w/o shamanistic focus).
Our LHW would be reduced with 75% of that, thats 360 mana.
LHW cost 15% of base mana, 900 mana.
Our LHW would cost 540 mana now. That's 40% reduced mana cost.
And you heal 25% more. On HW it won't be as efficient, so spamming LHW <3.
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#25 Shamanizer

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 01:20 PM

The mana cost of the heal is reduced by 75% of the mana cost of the shock. So if you take Shamanistic focus it will be worse (if it doesn't take base mana cost of shocks).
Base mana (WoTLK) is around 6k (if I have to believe chardev.org). Windshear cost 8% of base mana, thats 480 mana for a wind shear (w/o shamanistic focus).
Our LHW would be reduced with 75% of that, thats 360 mana.
LHW cost 15% of base mana, 900 mana.
Our LHW would cost 540 mana now. That's 40% reduced mana cost.
And you heal 25% more. On HW it won't be as efficient, so spamming LHW <3.


Exept i think it will still be better for healing wave into lesser healing wave.

right now, healing wave crit = 20k without ms. +25% = 25k I'd surely like to drop a 13k crit heal through mortal strike rather than 8k crit heal LHW.
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#26 Eskepeto

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 01:35 PM

if earthquake then give me my DnD glyph back


what does de dnd glyph :>
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#27 Lawdyx

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 01:56 PM

what does de dnd glyph :>


20% dmg now but back then it had 10%(?) per tick to horror the target for 2sec
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#28 Drye

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 01:58 PM

20% dmg now but back then it had 10%(?) per tick to horror the target for 2sec


NO NO NO keep the bad times out of my had :D

think it was more than 10%. at least felt like that -.-

basically, if you stood in a d'n'd you were perma-deathcoiled.
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 02:19 PM

NO NO NO keep the bad times out of my had :D

think it was more than 10%. at least felt like that -.-

basically, if you stood in a d'n'd you were perma-deathcoiled.


it just ticks every sec so yeah, could've been 20 tho im not sure
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 02:30 PM

The mana cost of the heal is reduced by 75% of the mana cost of the shock. So if you take Shamanistic focus it will be worse (if it doesn't take base mana cost of shocks).
Base mana (WoTLK) is around 6k (if I have to believe chardev.org). Windshear cost 8% of base mana, thats 480 mana for a wind shear (w/o shamanistic focus).
Our LHW would be reduced with 75% of that, thats 360 mana.
LHW cost 15% of base mana, 900 mana.
Our LHW would cost 540 mana now. That's 40% reduced mana cost.
And you heal 25% more. On HW it won't be as efficient, so spamming LHW <3.


I don't think the talent really affects if/when you heal. More likely the talent will affect if/when you shock. I'd think of it as "mana cost of shocks reduced by 75%(assuming you cast a heal before the buff expires) & shocks increase your next heal by 25%"
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 06:19 PM

did they take out spirit link yet again?
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 06:57 PM

I play enhacement shammy on my alt and i probobly gonna try with this spec, think i made it pretty well...the new talents seems fun. Lava Lash i think its gonna be pretty powerful, or atleast they are tying to make it better.

http://talent.mmo-ch...ooHzmUus,,11927


Dont really like that spec. Not sure how you can pass up totemic vigor especially with hp pools increasing. Also would max out reverb and pick up spirit weapons. I dont see ele mastery being worth losing those talents.
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#33 Independance

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 09:39 PM

did they take out spirit link yet again?


its not in the talent tree right now so i think so :(

hopefully it becomes a base spell for all of us so we have a type of sac
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 09:49 PM

do eles really need earthquake? :confused: wont complain till i see other spells tho D:
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 09:51 PM

do eles really need earthquake? :confused: wont complain till i see other spells tho D:


It's a PvE talent to make them inline with nearly every other ranged dps who has ranged AoE. So yes, yes they do.

Though, I'm not really all too sure why they added the knock down. There is no way that is going live.
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#36 cameronlol

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 11:26 PM

i like the ele and enhance talents, resto looks pretty shitty tho.

so we are supposed to shock before we heal, or what?
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 11:31 PM

i like the ele and enhance talents, resto looks pretty shitty tho.

so we are supposed to shock before we heal, or what?


Haven't really been looking into the talents and shit because I don't plan on playing but skimming threw the 3 mastery shits it seems resto got some good stuff as the other 2 specs got nothing.
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#38 cameronlol

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 11:42 PM

http://talent.mmo-ch...I2T71xJw,,11927

i would imagine losing 'guardian totems' and 'earth's grasp' hurts our survivability a bit.
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#39 biggbutts

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 11:46 PM

Hello my fellow :shaman:'s, i will try keep this thread updated with shaman related cataclysm information. If you find something related i havent posted just send me a PM



What ya think about those new talents that is on friends and family alpha? (its not final loads of changes to come!) can read about it on MMo

Restoration

- Focused Insight 5/5
After casting any Shock spell, youre next heal's mana cost is reduced by 75% by the cost of the Shock spell, and its healing effectivness increased by 25%.

- Ancestral Resolve 2/2
Reduce damage taken while casting spells by 10%.

- Cleanse Spirit 1/1
Empowers your Cleanse Spirit spell to also remove a magic effect from a frindly target.

Enhancment
- Searing Flames 5/5
Causes the Searing Bolts from youre Searing Totem to have 100% chance to set theyre target aflame, deadling damage to equal to the Searing Bolt's impact damage over 15 sec. Stacks up to 5 times.

-Ancestral Swiftness 3/3
Increase movement speed by 15%. this does not stack with other movement speed increasing effects.

-Totemic Vigor (wish this was for all specs)
Increase the health of youre totems by 9% of youre maximum health.

Elemental

-Lava Surge 3/3
Gives youre Flame Shock pereodic damage ticks a 30% chance to reset the cooldown of youre Lava Burst Spell.

-Acute Overload 3/3
Increases the damage dealt by your Elemental Overload by 20%

-Wrathful Totems 1/1
Causes youre Fire totems to increase the spell power of party and raid members within 100 yards by 10%.

Earthquake 1/1 86%Basemana 35yards 1,5sec casting(channeled) 15 seconds Cooldown.
You cause the earth at target location to tremble and break, dealing 36 physical damage ever 1 sec to enemies in 10 yard radius, with a 30% chance of knocking down affected targets. Last 10 sec.



GOBLIN TOTEM?

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Posted 07 May 2010 - 12:07 AM

- Focused Insight 5/5
After casting any Shock spell, youre next heal's mana cost is reduced by 75% by the cost of the Shock spell, and its healing effectivness increased by 25%.


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