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#21 Abni

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 01:15 PM

If you fake one spell lock you basically win, since it becomes a 1 second blanket CS since mage armor is cool.

I can win if not one lock gets faked, if a lock gets faked, the duel becomes unwinnable for the lock. Even if you miss your cs you still have a 4 second silence, while the lock has a 1 second silence.

If you use cold snap the lock SHOULDN'T win unless you're retarded.


hmm, seems like u need to talk to lord kigz on how to warlock
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#22 Evergray

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 01:20 PM

lol nobody cs's fel dom. you only try to blanket it and every now and then just like with cloak of shadows you get lucky and its just that- luck.


TBH rogues are lucky to get a clean clos and not i am lucky if i hit him through clos.
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#23 Katsu

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 02:40 PM

kinda hard, even faking every single Spell Lock you need loads of RNG to pull it off
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 02:50 PM

who the fuck uses cold snap in duels
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 02:53 PM

Why even try to pretend 2 equally skilled players can decide the matchup? The Warlock if Affliction will win 90% of the time.
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:o i didnt c wat u did thar, could you explain for us dumb ppl?


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Posted 19 April 2010 - 02:55 PM

spam damage onto him, keep felhunter out of silence range, win ?:confused::confused:
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 03:12 PM

spam damage onto him, keep felhunter out of silence range, win ?:confused::confused:


lol..
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 03:31 PM

killing pets in duels is lame (you wouldnt win by killing 2 pets on any arena purely cuz i can resummon almost any time, maybe in rov!)

cold snap in duels is lame too imo, as you'd almost never have it up in a 1v1 in arena, but ye depends how serious yout ake your duels.
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 03:42 PM

many mages hate using cold snap in duels tbh :P


Many Mages also enjoy losing apparently.

who the fuck uses cold snap in duels


Anyone who wants to beat a good Affliction Warlock, Marks Hunter, Unholy DK, etc. etc.
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 03:47 PM

rofl

cooldowns are there to be used

obviously some are "unethical" to be used ( inferno, DK's army of ghouls, pally's LoH, etc ), but for the most part Cold snap/prep should be used against an equally skilled opponent. Any player that can't force a cold snap/prep to be used is essentialy a inferior player to the mage.
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 04:22 PM

killing pets in duels is lame (you wouldnt win by killing 2 pets on any arena purely cuz i can resummon almost any time, maybe in rov!)

cold snap in duels is lame too imo, as you'd almost never have it up in a 1v1 in arena, but ye depends how serious yout ake your duels.


killing pets is not lame because you can't kill the pet, 20k hp and woop 10-20% heal ticks from health funnel... mmmyeah
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 04:25 PM

Not even using Spell Lock will cause a good mage that knows you're a good lock (have Spell Lock bound!) to have heart failure. Predict 3-5 fakes before a FUCK IT FULL CASTING - interrupted - FFFFUUUUUUU scenario.


i fucking hate this
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 04:27 PM

You won't beat a really good afflic lock without snap.
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 04:27 PM

killing pets is not lame because you can't kill the pet, 20k hp and woop 10-20% heal ticks from health funnel... mmmyeah


ye, its worthless startin on pet, rather just open hard on lock
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 04:30 PM

Mage armor.
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 04:32 PM

fel armor
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 04:32 PM

ITT: People playing with <50ms

yeah interrupting feldoms is kewl but not everyone plays with that latency
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 04:34 PM

ITT: People playing with <50ms

yeah interrupting feldoms is kewl but not everyone plays with that latency


i could easily do it while having 200-300 ms, it's even easier now with 90 ms
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 04:44 PM

ye, its worthless startin on pet, rather just open hard on lock


pmuch, i usually open hard on lock, spam instants, hit a deep freeze > go to cast a fbolt (at this point most locks hit cs panicing because they can't do anything other than trinket) once it's faked you can pretty easily cast another frostbolt before deep freeze ends (fyi when i df i hit veins/gloves instantly). if however he doesn't cs i just spam lances
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 04:47 PM

killing pets in duels is lame (you wouldnt win by killing 2 pets on any arena purely cuz i can resummon almost any time, maybe in rov!)

cold snap in duels is lame too imo, as you'd almost never have it up in a 1v1 in arena, but ye depends how serious yout ake your duels.


How is killing pets lame? As for the arena argument, ina 1v1 with a mage in arena if I let him kill my pet twice (or just the once if I've used fel dom already) I'm done... I can cc him for a max of 5sec and have no interrupt now. I can't snare him, or kite him. He can snare me, blink to me behind any pillar/pursue my port and he can kite me, CC me for full duration and interrupt. Killing pets is a very, very good thing to do if you're vs a lock that doesn't know how to protect it (and himself) properly.

As for the cooldowns, if you're getting beaten by an equally skilled opponent 1v1 without using cooldowns, clearly you are at a disadvantage and so should use Cold Snap to make things a little fairer. On my lock if I'm dueling a dk I'll create a hs (the duel is naturally in the dks favour) - if I'm against an elemental shaman, I won't.

I would imagine a hunter using readiness vs a mage would be one example of 'lame' cooldown abuse - mages Cold Snapping vs a competent aff lock is not xoxoxoxoxox

@Trig - You love it. Can't unload dmg and cooldowns if you know Spell Lock could be used at any time!
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