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#1 tycon1

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 08:53 PM

Doesnt that mean we will get pretty much fucked as soon as we get polyd? I mean imagine in 3s, and you HOT your X partner, you get polyd, they switch to your Y partner. And since we dont really have any strong instant or recovery heal, like PW:s/riptide, holyshock etc..dont you think we'll just fall behind on healing more than anyone else?
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 08:56 PM

yep, but there hasnt been an announcement stating that druid will be able to get sheeped.just have to cross our fingers i guess
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:01 PM

since we dont really have any strong instant or recovery heal, like PW:s/riptide, holyshock...


Riptide? really?

and what is swiftmend/nature's swiftness?
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:03 PM

Riptide? really?

and what is swiftmend/nature's swiftness?


NS 3 min cd swiftmend can only be used with a rejuv up, last time i checked people can dispel rejuv b4 swiftmend.
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:11 PM

Riptide? really?

and what is swiftmend/nature's swiftness?


The case was if Y target doesnt have any HOT, after dispells for example
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:11 PM

Last time i checked riptide healed for shit, unless crit without ms.
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:15 PM

last time i checked PWS can be dispelled to
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:20 PM

So noone is getting my point? The three other healing classes I mentioned doesnt rely on HOTs to heal something as druids do.
Everyone knows that a riptide->HW heals more than Nourish spam, or PW:S-> penance heals more than nourish spam..Or that holy shock->holy light heals more than nourish spam..

Now when you understand the situation reply to the thread with something useful :P
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:22 PM

ugh so that means you can still your partner while your cc'd since all your hots will be ticking
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:23 PM

you used the example that your instant heal swiftmend can get dispelled...and yet say priests have a "strong" instant heal PWS which can also be dispelled.
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:25 PM

last time i checked PWS can be dispelled to


yea cause u dont have a instant heal or anything??

If damage is the same in cata, druids will be horrible as we need to PREHOT the target in order to keep up with damage.
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:30 PM

you used the example that your instant heal swiftmend can get dispelled...and yet say priests have a "strong" instant heal PWS which can also be dispelled.


Assuming the dispeller of target Y doesnt have 10ms ping and target Y takes dmg constantly means that PW:S would absorb an amount of dmg for about 1 second yeah. But that rejuvenation wont even tick, nor last til it will be swiftmended. Sure were not talking any gamebreaking stuff here, but point is still that priests are still way better at healing someone who's already low.
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:31 PM

PENANCE... MIGHT WANNA LOOK INTO IT
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:32 PM

Just los polymorphs :)
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 09:34 PM

Just los polymorphs :)


Deep freeze -> poly :D
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 10:35 PM

Just los polymorphs :)


The problem is the amount of slows a good team puts out on you.

Fear isn't devestating in the same way (though you shouldn't get feared vs non destro locks anyhow) because of the way lock damage works
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 12:20 AM

Doesnt that mean we will get pretty much fucked as soon as we get polyd? I mean imagine in 3s, and you HOT your X partner, you get polyd, they switch to your Y partner. And since we dont really have any strong instant or recovery heal, like PW:s/riptide, holyshock etc..dont you think we'll just fall behind on healing more than anyone else?


You mean, like, the same as every other healer in the game?

riptide and holy shock really don't heal for that much, and they cost the same global that a flash heal, nourish, lesser HW, or flash of light does.

So I guess you will be at a disadvantage for 1.5 seconds (reduced by haste)?

Being prepared for switches is something that every good arena team should be able to do. Every other healer has had to deal with getting Polyed for 2 expansions, now that you get defensive dispel, you have to deal with the downsides of that just the same as every other healer.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 12:30 AM

Either your trolling or your so incredibly stupid i had to log in to tell you so.

All those spells you listed and swift mend is the strongest one of them all??

Hots make cc less threatening to us than other healers??

You can hot up more than one target before getting polyd??
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 04:06 AM

my main argument would be that every other healer has an instant, preemptive measure for breaking or preventing poly when they can't line of sight

priests can shadow word: death

pallys can sac

shaman can grounding/earth shock.

anyway, i think it's too early to complain about the mechanics of such a change until we try it out and see how druids are

either way, i can't imagine it'll be as devestating as plague strike was =p
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 04:10 AM

anyone arguing against this clearly hasn't actually played a resto druid.
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