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#261 Feya

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:09 PM

And you know, repeating a dozen time the exact same thing isn't magically making it right


You should take this sentence to heart yourself.
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#262 Grombringal

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:09 PM

I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT DATA IN AND OF ITSELF IS THE ONLY SOURCE WE SHOULD USE FOR BALANCE.

If that wasn't clear...


I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT DATA IN AND OF ITSELF IS THE ONLY SOURCE WE SHOULD USE FOR BALANCE.


I HAVE said that it's a non-biased and objective source of information that can be used to draw specific conclusions and trends. THAT IS A FACT.


That's not what you've been saying, at all
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#263 Elraen

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:09 PM

I think you imagined this. I cant remember DK's ever defending themselves in season5. Pretty sure we all knew it was OP,knew our representation was too high, hated shadowfrost and just wanted it changed so we could actually play a melee class than a one button high defensive cd chaingun.

You speak of bias and to be honest you seem pretty biased yourself.

There are actually stats of season 6 on the web somewhere, the number of gladiators. Don't think DK's were doing that well by the end of the season because of the 3.2 changes.

You're also using the generic "this is where data can be wrong" arguments, except you arent actually saying why these particular stats are wrong.

Lets say from a non-biased, non-subjective point of view you looked at this stats. What would you say? Take population into account and forget about the sk-100 all bracket average, just use the gladiator brackets of 3v3 and 5v5 as empirical data.

When you spoke about hunters, don't you find it interesting that the developers havent nerfed them despite your view of the class? Warriors just got a bladestorm nerf remember, but pretty much nothing happened to hunters. I suggest it is because of their lack of representation.

The best example I can think of in the representation argument is when GC came right out and said "we're not nerfing feral druids (tank ones) because the numbers of them tanking raid bosses is too low" despite most high end guilds and tanking theorycraft saw druids as having the best EH at the time. This to me proves that just because something is overpowered doesnt mean it will be nerfed if there are so few people succeeding with it.

Edit: Hal, come on, he was clearly being sarcastic. Your point of view is really being skewed by your clear dislike of the DK class in this thread.


www.arenastats.com

People copy and paste A LOT from wikipedia without knowing what all of that stuff actually means.
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#264 Grombringal

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:10 PM

You should take this sentence to heart yourself.


Considering you've been righting walls of text empty of content for the past ten pages I take this as a compliment
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#265 Elraen

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:10 PM

I'm sorry if your selective memory isn't able to remember when you were defending DKs in S5 and S6 by refuting the exact same representation argument you're using right now


Citation, please.
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#266 Grombringal

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:11 PM

Not going to go through your billion of useless posts to find it sorry
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#267 Elraen

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:12 PM

That's not what you've been saying, at all


O really?
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#268 Grombringal

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:12 PM

www.arenastats.com

People copy and paste A LOT from wikipedia without knowing what all of that stuff actually means.


Representation is the only empirical and objective data we have by which to balance classes.


Please stop posting =/
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#269 Elraen

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:14 PM

Not going to go through your billion of useless posts to find it sorry


Then quit making things up that you can't prove.

I could say "during S5, you used rep to prove that warriors needed buffs, so you used it conveniently when you wanted to...but now you're dismissing it." Using your logic, I don't have to prove you said it as long as **I** said you said it. c wut i did thar?
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#270 Elraen

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:16 PM

Please stop posting =/


You didn't prove anything there. What part of what I said is wrong?

I said arena rep is the only empirical and non-biased DATA we have. I didn't say it's the only SOURCE OF INFORMATION or the only BASIS we have by which to balance-I just said it's the only empirical and non-biased data. There's a big difference there.
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#271 Feya

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:18 PM

You didn't prove anything there. What part of what I said is wrong?

I said arena rep is the only empirical and non-biased DATA we have. I didn't say it's the only SOURCE OF INFORMATION or the only BASIS we have by which to balance-I just said it's the only empirical and non-biased data. There's a big difference there.


He's clearly trolling. Just report and move on.
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#272 Grombringal

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:18 PM

You're playing words because you've been proven wrong, not the first time you do so
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#273 Grombringal

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:18 PM

Feel free to report me, hope you enjoy wasting your time
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#274 Grombringal

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:19 PM

This thread will be locked anytime soon anyway since you've been posting shit for the past 10 pages
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