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#41 Riezel

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:02 PM

Pekin said:

warriors were overpowered
dk's were overpowered


but for the love of god, they werent asking for buffs ...

I Don't see how 30% run speed would be bad for the game, it would make it possible to make the hunter class balanced against both melee and ranged instead of butt fucking / getting butt fucked.
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:12 PM

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I hate the argument about "we're on the low end of the representation spectrum" because there could easily be a lower number of people playing Hunters than other classes. I know multiple top-end people of each class but only two Hunters.

If only Hunter gear had ArP; the "need help vs plate" and "OP vs cloth" debacle would finally be solved.

Yea that argument makes sense when you're talking about representation from 1500+ but we're talking about 2200+

If all of a sudden blizzard gave the lowest rep class an ability that did 10k dmg every 2 seconds that class would flood the entire bracket. Total population means little when looking at the top of the brackets. There are enough skilled players of each class in every BG to fill up the top of a ladder if their class all of a sudden was buffed substantially.
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:14 PM

Yes said:

Hunters are like PoM Pyro mages --- except for them PoM is on a 10 second cooldown.

Except Pom pyro mages dont have 2 iceblocks that are undispellable with no hypothermia and still allow movement.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:15 PM

KIA Skill said:

Except Pom pyro mages dont have 2 iceblocks that are undispellable with no hypothermia and still allow movement.

OH JESUS

OH MOTHER OF ALL THINGS RIGHT IN THE WORLD


Did this fuck just compare Deterrence to Iceblock and act like it's better?

OH LAWD

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:18 PM

juventino_hero said:

hunters had 9% rep, which is what a pure dps class is supposed to have in s5...

hunters main comp in s5 (PHDk) was countered by THE most prevalent comp and the best comp (pal-dk-lock). So your complaining about 2v2 i guess...oh, the bracket that doesant matter. or did you mean 5v5? the bracket that actually means less than 2v2. Oh i see, yeh, you got me there, hunters were good at 5's and 2's, yay

Hunters were a joke in s5, nobody needs to know representation to know this.

If you TRIED and failed to achieve gladiator as an s5 surv hunter in any bracket then you should probably quit playing imo. Especially if you were also playing with a dk in 3's or 5's.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:19 PM

Levidian said:

Yea that argument makes sense when you're talking about representation from 1500+ but we're talking about 2200+

If all of a sudden blizzard gave the lowest rep class an ability that did 10k dmg every 2 seconds that class would flood the entire bracket. Total population means little when looking at the top of the brackets. There are enough skilled players of each class in every BG to fill up the top of a ladder if their class all of a sudden was buffed substantially.

This.

Very hard for retarded ppl to understand tho.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:21 PM

Levidian said:

OH JESUS

OH MOTHER OF ALL THINGS RIGHT IN THE WORLD


Did this fuck just compare Deterrence to Iceblock and act like it's better?

OH LAWD

We've seen it all.

Are you fucking stupid? No where in that post did I say deterrence is better or not better than ice block.

I DID however say that 2 deterrences without hypo is better than 1 ice block from a pom pyro mage. If you disagree with that, then you sir are a fucking moron.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:28 PM

KIA Skill said:

Are you fucking stupid? No where in that post did I say deterrence is better or not better than ice block.

I DID however say that 2 deterrences without hypo is better than 1 ice block from a pom pyro mage. If you disagree with that, then you sir are a fucking moron.

Why are you talking about PoM pyro mages?
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:30 PM

Levidian said:

Why are you talking about PoM pyro mages?

....Topic plus the quoted statement in my post....

/facepalm....

Here is something that might help you

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:32 PM

KIA Skill said:

....Topic plus the quoted statement in my post....

/facepalm....

Here is something that might help you

http://www.orange32....6/abc_cover.jpg

I would still argue a single iceblock is better than 2x deterrence.
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:38 PM

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I would still argue a single iceblock is better than 2x deterrence.

Well then like I said in my earlier post, you are a moron.

You don't play against spriests/ua locks every arena you enter.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:44 PM

hunter dmg is like warriors, only that hunters got cc, better survivability and ms can´t be dodged.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:48 PM

juventino_hero said:

bring back glyph of the monkey, and anyone who says we need nerfs are biased retards. We need buffs against plate classes, and anti-dot protection (deterence wiping out dots??)

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:48 PM

KIA Skill said:

Well then like I said in my earlier post, you are a moron.

You don't play against spriests/ua locks every arena you enter.

But IB is still twice as strong as deterrence ~ feel free to try to prove the opposit.
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 12:58 PM

lol deterence better than iceblock? please tell me your trolling....please

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 01:00 PM

Riezel said:

But IB is still twice as strong as deterrence ~ feel free to try to prove the opposit.

Maybe if your bg is literally 98% UA lock/spriest teams or you are a dribbling retard.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 01:02 PM

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lol deterence better than iceblock? please tell me your trolling....please

In the sense deterrence allows you to still move, one can argue situationally that deterrence is better.

(Iceblock is imo better most the time though since it wipes debuffs)
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 01:04 PM

Sigh, every class except Hunters would agree that Hunters are overpowered at the moment. It's perfectly fucking logic that they wouldnt admit to being overpowered, admitting you're overpowered is the first step to getting nerfed.

So obviously every Hunter here tries to convince himself and others, that the class is not overpowered while he sits there and claps his little chubby hands everytime he 3-shots a Mage in arena.

And don't give me that paper/scissors/rock crap, in regards to Hunters at the moment, we're talking Paper/Nuclearweapons/Rock.

The jig is up, give it a rest please.

Give me all your -rep, because really Hunters, I care.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 01:06 PM

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Sigh, every class except Hunters would agree that Hunters are overpowered at the moment. It's perfectly fucking logic that they wouldnt admit to being overpowered, admitting you're overpowered is the first step to getting nerfed.

So obviously every Hunter here tries to convince himself and others, that the class is not overpowered while he sits there and then sits there and claps his little chubby hands everytime he 3-shots a Mage in arena.

The jig is up, give it a rest please.

Give me all your -rep, because really Hunters, I care.

BUT THE REPRESENTATION BRO!!! LOOK LOOK!!!!

LMAO I gave you + rep for that one, not that it matters with the 9000 negative you will get from it.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 01:08 PM

KIA Skill said:

Maybe if your bg is literally 98% UA lock/spriest teams or you are a dribbling retard.


Ok lets say it like this. You are a mage and wants to ice block. Lets do some changes.

Positive change:
You can move around.

Fun changes.
First , lets cleave the time to 5 seconds instead of 10

Lets make it not remove mortal strike effects.

Lets make all spells that are casted before you click IB hit even if the block is active.

And insted of mass dispell as a counter lets add Cheap Shot and Dismantle (and 3 other disarms if not using 2x1handers).

And ofc lets add to ice block following: not usable while stunned. Or any other CC effect for that matter.

End

I wont add the line with dots totally ripping the sanity out of hunters to make you happy.

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