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#1 Revelstoke

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 07:31 AM

how would YOU do it

reduce scaling of haste maybe? make haste on gear better than effects?
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#2 morpie

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 07:44 AM

Everyone does more damage while lusted, why shouldn't shadowpriests?
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 08:44 AM

I think Bloodlust should only affect the shaman in arenas.



so you pretty much want to remove shamans from arenas?
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 08:53 AM

should only affect the shaman.

spriests during bloodlust is retarded.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 08:56 AM

ua lock with lust is pretty retarded as well imo. :P
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 08:58 AM

When hunters get toned down, we can talk about the damage being done by other classes, I think.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 09:14 AM

Casters overall benefit alot more from bl id say, playing with with a shaman on my warlock in 3s, its retarded.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 09:22 AM

Casters overall benefit a lot more from HASTE id say.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 09:29 AM

They should split up the haste that shamans give via bloodlust and the haste that casters can get via gear. So when a shaman bloodlusts the cast speeds can be increased but not the haste values.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 10:10 AM

Just a question about something which never cleared up for me: does BL affect dot-ticking speed?
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 10:16 AM

When hunters get toned down, we can talk about the damage being done by other classes, I think.


Spriest are far more superior than hunters, see how my opinion automatically overwrites yours?
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 10:23 AM

Just a question about something which never cleared up for me: does BL affect dot-ticking speed?


Only recently when they made dots scale with haste.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 10:27 AM

Problem is with S priests is the damage is strong (spesh in bloodlust and when combined with insta utility CC PH/silence etc) but there efficiency is terrible, imo increase efficiency, lower damage slightly maybe reduce coefficient for dot scaling with haste and yeh i agree with the idea to make lust reduce cast time but not increase dot speed :)
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 10:41 AM

Shaman is a good healer.

Read: Bloodlust is carrying two retarded classes
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 10:45 AM

It's fine.


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Posted 14 March 2010 - 10:51 AM

Bloodlust makes every caster strong, no need to finger point to a class.

ps. never played with BL myself :(
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 11:47 AM

I never understand this argument that spriest + lust has problem more than other

Last I do math spriest vs other caster
(If free2cast)
Mage / Destro / E Shaman / Boomkin all ahead of spriest as lust damage increase is compare even with dot haste

Dot Haste add maybe 400dps total if both stay on and not abolish / auto cleanse of DP

Mindblast/swdeath gain 0 from haste

Mindflay gain 600 dps increase though, but this occur even before haste patch.

In comparison most caster that have non CD nuke see much more benefit.

Of course lots benefit in not have to free cast to do dmg because of dot.

I think problem with lust is last so long for arena, must have time cut in 1/2 or mayb 1/4

Also I think one possible is that some spriest spam DP for damage on move, which during 1s gcd become high dps
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 11:55 AM

I never understand this argument that spriest + lust has problem more than other

Last I do math spriest vs other caster
(If free2cast)


The problem lies within the "If free to cast" part.

A shadowpriest merely needs to cast for a very short time to get VT up on a target and devouring plague & SW: pain (although doesen't scale with haste I think? atleast it used to be so?) are both instant casts so that's alot of damage without having to channel or maintain LOS at all.

After you've gotten the DOTs up (which is arguably the main source of damage for SPs) you channel stuff like Mind Blast for the 20% MS and Mind Flay for extra damage, but since your DOTs already scale with the massive gain of haste from bloodlust on top of the haste in your gear already, you're dealing massive damage without having to channel much at all.

I'm not saying shadowpriests are the most overpowered thing in this game right now though, but they're definitely the most dangerous class with bloodlust out there right now. Obviously bloodlust makes any caster very strong, so no need to point that out either.

Also I think one possible is that some spriest spam DP for damage on move, which during 1s gcd become high dps


Yeah, you beat me to it. Was going to add this to my post but you got me. DP spam (I understand it costs a high amount of mana though) does really massive amounts of damage on top of the already rolling DOTs and it doesen't require you to stand still or cast at all. You can just spam DPs on to the target as long as your mana supports it. Devastating with a 1sec GCD.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 04:33 PM

Everyone does more damage while lusted, why shouldn't shadowpriests?


Because by lowing the GCD and increasing the rate that spells deal damage, it's double dipping on haste.

I don't really have a problem with it.
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Posted 14 March 2010 - 04:43 PM

Bloodlust has to be removed from arenas, doesn't matter if Shamans have to get a new shield with flying dicks or some stupid shit but Bloodlust is just a big source of problems for PvP balance as a whole.
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