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#1 Lolflay

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 07:39 PM

If you're specced into improved devouring plague, cleansing totem shouldn't be able to remove Devouring Plague.

Abolish Disease, Cleanse, Purify, and other spells of this type should work, but Cleansing totem specifically should not be able to remove it - only targetted dispels.

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I've installed a addon to see my spell casting statistics during pve and accidentaly left it on during arena - in a single arena I whacked about 9 cleansing totems before giving up, and I recasted devouring plague 21 ( ! ) times, 5 of those were refreshes when my target got out of range of cleansing totem/cleansing totem was dead. Everytime I killed cleansing totem I lost 1 second and it took shaman zero effort to just replant it.


Fire and forget ability such as cleansing totem shouldn't be able to remove our most expensive dot, I'm fine with it in return being stripped of its 30% resistance to dispel from targetted dispels ( obviously SWP and VT would remain intact ).

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#2 Funstar

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 07:46 PM

Why can a shaman's "fire and forget ability" not counter your "fire and forget" ability ?
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"I don't think I'm going to xfer. The main reason is you guys don't have a 2s rating thats reasonably high. Warr/Hpally is one of the best 2s comps right now.

If you guys were able to push a 2s team to 2.5k, I would xfer, but $50 is too much to xfer/faction change without it.

GL!"

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#3 Funstar

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:00 PM

But it heals you. Cleansing/tremor totem are the only "OP" things a shaman has, they are probably the worst healer atm.
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"I don't think I'm going to xfer. The main reason is you guys don't have a 2s rating thats reasonably high. Warr/Hpally is one of the best 2s comps right now.

If you guys were able to push a 2s team to 2.5k, I would xfer, but $50 is too much to xfer/faction change without it.

GL!"

LOLOL 2s is serious!

#4 Lolflay

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:02 PM

Why can a shaman's "fire and forget ability" not counter your "fire and forget" ability ?


/facepalm

just don't post here, thanks
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[13:49:53] Creed: nothing like running through the bush being chased by wild animals to get a proper workout
[13:50:01] Creed: you europeans and ur silly gyms


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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:02 PM

if they're going to nerf the totem so much, they'll probably retaliate by giving shaman somethign retarded like 8 second cooldown 500 mana aoe poison/disease cleanse

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:03 PM

if they're going to nerf the totem so much, they'll probably retaliate by giving shaman somethign retarded like 8 second cooldown 500 mana aoe poison/disease cleanse

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I'm not asking for any totem nerfs. All I'm asking is DP not being removable by Cleansing totem, because if shaman wants it up, IT WILL be up - I can't do a shit to prevent it - and it constantly eats 1k mana of mine and a really huge chunk of my damage.
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[13:50:01] Creed: you europeans and ur silly gyms


#7 dubroya

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:06 PM

huge chunk of my damage.


Your damage should be nerfed a lot so I don't see the reason why it shouldn't be kept the way it is.
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:06 PM

You could wait until next patch and run with a dk on your team.
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"I don't think I'm going to xfer. The main reason is you guys don't have a 2s rating thats reasonably high. Warr/Hpally is one of the best 2s comps right now.

If you guys were able to push a 2s team to 2.5k, I would xfer, but $50 is too much to xfer/faction change without it.

GL!"

LOLOL 2s is serious!

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:08 PM

You could wait until next patch and run with a dk on your team.


DK/SP/Resto Shaman isn't a tier 1 combo, and swapping partners just because one spell gets dispelled by cleansing totem is ridiculus.
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#10 Funstar

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:08 PM

/shrug maybe to flayz it is.
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"I don't think I'm going to xfer. The main reason is you guys don't have a 2s rating thats reasonably high. Warr/Hpally is one of the best 2s comps right now.

If you guys were able to push a 2s team to 2.5k, I would xfer, but $50 is too much to xfer/faction change without it.

GL!"

LOLOL 2s is serious!

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:11 PM

guess destro was fine
conflag was all that they had
look how that ended



Conflag itself wasn't fine, and destro is far from a dead spec via the conflag nerf. Pretty sure Shadowfury is still one of the most clutch spells in the game, landed/lands more kills than conflag ever solely did.
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#12 dubroya

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:18 PM

why is this guy writing in lyrics
and i can't understand him at all
so cba to respond
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:40 PM

http://dictionary.re...om/browse/haiku
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:42 PM

I thought so too, but it's not in the perfect form.
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:55 PM

Can we just make dp magic? Considering it barely heals us anymore (i think it heals for 10% of its damage, sweet a 200 rejuv tick every 3 seconds before ms).

That way shamans dont have to bitch.

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 09:01 PM

I thought so too, but it's not in the perfect form.


sure you did

and they are all proper haikus as far as I can see
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 09:03 PM

sure you did

and they are all proper haikus as far as I can see


i did but i couldn't be arsed to find the exact definition on wikipedia and check if its real ;)
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 09:03 PM

uh huh
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Posted 11 March 2010 - 09:05 PM

Cleansing totem need to be nerfed/changed. And imo its time for bloodlust as well to step out of arena. (big cause of wizzcleave's imbalance). and ofc compensate somehow for it. An example to describe how outdated it is, imagine it like giving a party wide 30%(!) dmg buff for 40s(!) to a Paladin and his TSG. (30%haste≈30% dmg for casters, and even more for some.)

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 09:36 PM

Same argument could be made about Tremor totem

tremor in africa, brb, ok got tremor, nvm dropped another, going to hit that one, ok running to shama... nevermind another one down..
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