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#41 Myowndk

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 08:04 PM

You are asking a question in the sticky, which is answered by the sticky.

Read the section "Curse of Tongues".
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Posted 26 March 2010 - 08:05 PM

it does
cot slows down everything you´re able to specc into it that it ticks faster

cot on afflictionlocks is amazing


just duel a lock infront of if, if he got quick glyph and you get cot on him is cor will last much longer than normal (ticks slower)
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#43 Shinaniganz

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 08:15 PM

You are asking a question in the sticky, which is answered by the sticky.

Read the section "Curse of Tongues".


The reason I asked was because I saw the section in your post and was unsure if it was correct.

I have seen too much down syndrome arena advice posted on this forum so I don't take everything that any random posts as the word of god. Granted, in this situation your post was correct, but what I was really asking for was proof that the mechanic functions in that way. Proof that was not included in your post.
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#44 Myowndk

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 08:22 PM

Ah fair enough, read that as if you were just randomly asking a question.

I just considered it common knowledge that CoT affects QD, as it's been posted since the first day the glyph was deployed.

If I'd have to proof every formula and haste scaling I have posted here, this sticky would most likely be about twenty times as big.
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#45 Shinaniganz

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 08:26 PM

I wan't playing much at the time of the patch and I never really bothered to check. The cot tool tip is kind of ancient and the way that it was worded made it seem like it didn't.

The question was sort of off topic which is why I just sort of randomly threw it out there. I was in no way suggesting that it should be included in your sticky.
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#46 Fob

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 07:31 AM

is 980 haste(/w spell stone) and 3155 dmg(unbuffed) too much haste and should i be looking into getting more or should just completely stop and focus on spell power(this is my warlock of course, not my mage)
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Posted 09 May 2010 - 09:02 AM

is 980 haste(/w spell stone) and 3155 dmg(unbuffed) too much haste and should i be looking into getting more or should just completely stop and focus on spell power(this is my warlock of course, not my mage)


820 Haste is softcap with eradiction, I wouldn't get much more. Most locks have about 3300-3400 spellpower with something around 600-820 Haste, so your Spellpower is quite low.
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#48 Malevolént

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 01:46 PM

I wonder how reaching 750 haste w/o tons of pve is possible? I wear 4/5 pvp and badge chest, I'm around 620 haste or something. And everything below 1200 resilience isn't worth it (or is it?)..
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#49 Lauviah

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 01:56 PM

750 haste is easily attainable with 2 haste rings and badge chest or legs for example.

Myself I have 1070 haste with spellstone, but low spellpower - 3046 unbuffed.

I'm wondering if it's worth it to go with more sp and be at 789 haste with spellstone and 3375 spellpower unbuffed.
,08 sec difference on casts like fears/uas/haunts/gcds vs 9% harder dot ticks.

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#50 Malevolént

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 02:07 PM

I'd go for more spellpower. As woony said, softcap is 820 with eradiction. And faster casts... the casts are so fast with 700+ haste, you don't even notice 200 or even 300 haste that much.

I hopefully get some pve ring soon :(
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Posted 14 May 2010 - 06:35 AM

http://www.wowarmory...'thol&cn=Banhmi

my warlock... more spell power less haste? or keep haste the same
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Posted 14 May 2010 - 06:55 AM

http://www.wowarmory...'thol&cn=Banhmi

my warlock... more spell power less haste? or keep haste the same


More spell power about 150ish less haste imo
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#53 Filovirus

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 05:55 PM

http://www.wowarmory...'thol&cn=Banhmi

my warlock... more spell power less haste? or keep haste the same


Looks like a pretty decent balance of stats. I wouldn't lose any haste from what you have right now.

Edit: swap the sp gem in your belt to spell pen/sp

I would also switch your wand to wrathful when you get the points. Your resilience seems pretty low, especially for someone using the resil trinket.
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Posted 18 May 2010 - 07:04 AM

ahh i switched out a bnch of gears for my destro but i'll try to get an update
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Posted 26 May 2010 - 02:33 PM

Looks like a pretty decent balance of stats. I wouldn't lose any haste from what you have right now.

Edit: swap the sp gem in your belt to spell pen/sp

I would also switch your wand to wrathful when you get the points. Your resilience seems pretty low, especially for someone using the resil trinket.

http://www.wowarmory...'thol&cn=Banhmi

ok how about now
i replaced a few haste gems/12sp/13spen my belt... got new ring upgrade helm
still waiting for some points for wand/glove, i just started playing this char again a few weeks ago
and i plan on increasing my resil by just wearing the wrathful chest
prob gonna have to start actually playing this char a lot now rather then just collecting dust and points :P
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#56 Lauviah

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Posted 26 May 2010 - 02:40 PM

since you have dfo i'd get wrathful chest on your place, instead of the emblem ones

and as filo said, get wrathful wand and you've got bis gear for pvp
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 07:02 PM

how about now
http://www.wowarmory...'thol&cn=Banhmi
i dont have enough points for wand but
i did get a 277 wand
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Posted 19 June 2010 - 07:18 PM

here r my lock stats

3500 sp with armor on
23% crit
902 haste
1200 resil
cap on hit and spell pen
is there anithin i should change as destro, also im using spellstone but not sure if anyone uses fire tone anymore
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Posted 20 June 2010 - 09:36 PM

900 haste is too much haste for destro; aim for somewhere between 500 - 600.
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Posted 22 June 2010 - 05:28 PM

here r my lock stats

3500 sp with armor on
23% crit
902 haste
1200 resil
cap on hit and spell pen
is there anithin i should change as destro, also im using spellstone but not sure if anyone uses fire tone anymore


Use firestone, like Kluian said aim for 500-600 haste.

This is the destro set I recently put together:http://www.wowarmory...ad&cn=Filovirus
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