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#181 Avengerz

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 12:22 PM

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#182 kolsyrad

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 12:49 PM

Make prot like hammerdins in D2 and we'll have balance, right?
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#183 Luminary

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 12:53 PM

I like ret more.. I like the knight templar character feel but ya.. Its not fun getting 2 shotted by every 3v3 team in this game..and having games where all u do is try to run for your live and eventually dying
When they give ret a worthwhile defensive talents..
Im staying prot =/


LOL.

Too funny.

Kid, you're ridic. Name a dps spec with HALF as many defensive talents as either ret or "protret" have.
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#184 thekillshot

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 01:01 PM

LOL.

Too funny.

Kid, you're ridic. Name a dps spec with HALF as many defensive talents as either ret or "protret" have.


mage................ they are very hard to kill,
but as a hunter mages fall over dead,and ya rets rly are very squishy you can get 1 to bubble in a very simple cc on there healer even if they play mad defensive an get peels,cause wotlk damage is balanced right
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#185 Avengerz

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 01:02 PM

LOL.

Too funny.

Kid, you're ridic. Name a dps spec with HALF as many defensive talents as either ret or "protret" have.


I didnt mention protret
Pret is actually the salvation of how broken ret is
Mention Me Any DefenSive Cd Ret has beside Bubble Which Usually maens vs good teams that .. "WEE Im alive.. O wait.. *Other Team Switches To Healer* .. *Healer While trying to keep u and him up*.. O Snap"
Its really stupid
Rogue Has Cloak/Vanish/Evasion/Sprint/Their LockDowns
Dks IBF/UA/AMS/AMZ/Deathstrike
Warriors Shield Wall/Reflect/Disarm/Shield Block/Overpower/Pummel/ShieldBash
Ret Stun on 1min cd/Bubble/Sacred Shield Which Is insta Dispelled all the time .. AMAZING ! Also Bubble Can be mass dispelled
None of the melee classes Defensive CD's Can be Dispelled Or Removed..
Of all the melee Classes Ret has the least survivabillity ..
Only reason u bring ret to the table because its an amazing Baby sitter .. Like Dks..
Bubble is strong with holy paladins at the most.. Because Its a osnap I wasnt ready for that switch button then u get ur head in the game and be always ready and boom u dont even need it anymore
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#186 pap_the_Greek_

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 12:09 AM

I didnt mention protret
Pret is actually the salvation of how broken ret is
Mention Me Any DefenSive Cd Ret has beside Bubble Which Usually maens vs good teams that .. "WEE Im alive.. O wait.. *Other Team Switches To Healer* .. *Healer While trying to keep u and him up*.. O Snap"
Its really stupid
Rogue Has Cloak/Vanish/Evasion/Sprint/Their LockDowns
Dks IBF/UA/AMS/AMZ/Deathstrike
Warriors Shield Wall/Reflect/Disarm/Shield Block/Overpower/Pummel/ShieldBash
Ret Stun on 1min cd/Bubble/Sacred Shield Which Is insta Dispelled all the time .. AMAZING ! Also Bubble Can be mass dispelled
None of the melee classes Defensive CD's Can be Dispelled Or Removed..
Of all the melee Classes Ret has the least survivabillity ..
Only reason u bring ret to the table because its an amazing Baby sitter .. Like Dks..
Bubble is strong with holy paladins at the most.. Because Its a osnap I wasnt ready for that switch button then u get ur head in the game and be always ready and boom u dont even need it anymore


kindof /agree ~
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#187 Avengerz

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 08:16 AM

imo a good buff wud be giving ret a 30% ms
that doesnt stack with mortal strike or aimed shot.. so no OP Cleave Shit
But it stacks with the 20% MS casters have.. that will give ret more options to play instead of just playing with any class that is the center of the team and all u do is fix the headlights for him because.. "He Has MS Yo w/ Massive DMG"
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Posted 25 March 2010 - 08:17 AM

Or a wind shear like interrupt or Sthing like netherprotection for rets
3rd idea is imo the best that will REALLY fix rets..
sthing like nether protection for rets .. any one that agrees on the 3rd iDea ?


* After 2nd thinking.. an Interrupt Wud Be OP.. and It doesnt fit the paladin class.. But Nether Protection Like Talent Wud be REALLY good buff.. =/"
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#189 Polizei

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 04:26 PM

Or a wind shear like interrupt or Sthing like netherprotection for rets
3rd idea is imo the best that will REALLY fix rets..
sthing like nether protection for rets .. any one that agrees on the 3rd iDea ?


* After 2nd thinking.. an Interrupt Wud Be OP.. and It doesnt fit the paladin class.. But Nether Protection Like Talent Wud be REALLY good buff.. =/"


Srsly dude dont say anything, your capitals are so fucked up I cant follow even the half you are saying without reading it twice.
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#190 Avengerz

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 12:17 AM

sry :D I tend to do that alot
but really.. nether protection like talent would be the best suitable buff to rets that will almost certainly fix them and not make them OP
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#191 Veet

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 02:54 AM

Ret just needs really good healers (and a hunter).
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Posted 30 March 2010 - 09:38 PM

How good is pret survivability vs a normal ret paladin?
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#193 Xonkk

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 09:43 PM

How good is pret survivability vs a normal ret paladin?


Prot/ret should tear through a ret paladin if he's using the shields on him, otherwise it really depends on teammates on both sides.
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#194 Myhra

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 10:16 PM

I mean if both of them getting focused in a game (not paladin hitting paladin etc) how long will a pret and a ret survive without getting outside help(heal, peel, cd etc)?
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#195 Alendar

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:37 PM

Make prot like hammerdins in D2 and we'll have balance, right?


or smiters :P
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#196 Avengerz

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 12:06 AM

Pret will Survive WAAAAY more than a ret .. Specially vs melee classes. You can take a beating and live to score a kill after. But Its a stupid, Dumb and brain damaging spec .. FIX RET , REMOVE PROT Period.
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Posted 01 April 2010 - 02:26 PM

I mean if both of them getting focused in a game (not paladin hitting paladin etc) how long will a pret and a ret survive without getting outside help(heal, peel, cd etc)?


prot way longer ofc, but ret is able to go out of shit by himself way better (imp hof and instant flashes to save his life - hit a pet behind a pillar to proc them etc)
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#198 Kadryelx

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 03:12 PM

FIX RET , REMOVE PROT Period.


^^ this
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Posted 04 April 2010 - 10:22 PM

This is how i feel when i play prot

http://www.sk-gaming...39549-retri_PvP
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