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#21 pdtr

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 06:39 AM

Shammerz said:

I'm assuming destro/mage/x comps will require a much larger focus on cc chaining now as opposed to killing something in one second, although I'm sure you can still make that happen :cool:

I really dont feel the resil change all that much; in saying that it has always been a good strat to CC the shit out of the healer and score the kill :p

btw, anyone else finding rogues 'the hardest hurt class from resil buff' still hitting like a fucking truck in the opener?

#22 Alex-BV

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 03:27 PM

it just changed nothing... cleaves still cleave

and warlocks still crit for 10k+

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 04:07 PM

Just because a comp is effective doesn't mean nothing has changed. Now don't misinterpret -- I'm not commentating on whether or not spell cleave, or regular cleave, or anything is fair or balanced. All I am saying is that at least with the resilience / healing changes we got something.

And something is better than nothing.

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 04:12 PM

Kluian said:

Just because a comp is effective doesn't mean nothing has changed. Now don't misinterpret -- I'm not commentating on whether or not spell cleave, or regular cleave, or anything is fair or balanced. All I am saying is that at least with the resilience / healing changes we got something.

And something is better than nothing.

you are right... maybe i am just frustrated :)

lets say: they changed something, but the result is the same ^^

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 05:39 PM

MLS is still faceroll as ever :).

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Posted 04 February 2010 - 09:34 PM

WTB tri-spec :(
def need to keep my pve spec for icc, unlike toc T_T

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 10:52 AM

Running Affli/Elem/Hpala at around 2.4-2.5k mmr.

It's definately viable.

Only comps that beat us are priest/pala/warrior double healer and this shadowcleave team that turtle like MAD.

The shadowcleave is beatable, but the double healer is impossible for us. Priest has like 800 mp5 or something.. goes oom half way through the match but 10 secs later has enough mana to dispel/shield/penance again :<

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 11:11 AM

MLS and Ele/UA/Druid at ~2700 MMR each are really really strong.  both comps have their strengths and weaknesses vs certain teams but all the players on the roster are on at the same time so we can just switch out whenever.  

MLS still handles warrior teams very well.  we've always played it as a double CC comp over a burst comp so our playstyle hasnt changed at all.  in fact i feel more confident running MLS this season since i see a lot of double healers lately.  

with UA/ele/druid i find its really good against hunter teams although for some double healers its sort of hard to land kills on the warrior if the healers are good.  if anything i start spamming blue bar on the healers and that usually works.  havent really lost to a double healer warrior as this comp but some games have gone rather long.  spell cleave still the way to go and extremely strong.

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 09:29 PM

as long as you have a shaman, wizards will probably always be strong

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 11:41 PM

What about MLD... anyone have experience with that yet?

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 11:48 PM

Just about any wizard cleave variant that you can possibly think of will work if you have good players on the team.

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Posted 05 February 2010 - 11:50 PM

soki said:

WTB tri-spec :(
def need to keep my pve spec for icc, unlike toc T_T

This exactly.  I get to be the demo buff bitch, so I only get my 1 pvp spec :\

Sucks because I ran afflic/ele/priest yesterday and fought nothing but cleaves (i'd rather be destro obviously), played today as destro and playing a shit ton of non-cleaves (i'd rather be afflic)

/sigh

If I didn't love pve so much... -_-

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 09:36 AM

viktir said:

What about MLD... anyone have experience with that yet?

strong for sure, as afflic/frost at least
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 12:55 AM

Nuking with conflag dots sure works but not that great anymore :D

Tho blizz is working on something to fix destro pve... maybe it will help us in pvp too...

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 02:24 AM

Ollakka said:

Nuking with conflag dots sure works but not that great anymore :D

Tho blizz is working on something to fix destro pve... maybe it will help us in pvp too...

destro pve fixes seem to revolve around imps.
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Posted 10 February 2010 - 02:35 PM

BG5 needs more caster cleaves to farm down the melee cleaves.

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 02:55 PM

On a side note, 6.8k corruption crit ticks in PvE is nice :D

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 02:57 PM

destro ele hpal still viable. we've had ~20 min games tho vs warr/disc/restodru on blades edge and another vs warr/protpal/dru who pillarhugged on nagrand. hunter teams are very much beatable so far. wld is hard.

Thunderchuck said:

i play ele/ destro/ holy pally.  is the comp stronger with a UA lock instead of a destro lock now?
destro is better if youre playing with a pally healer imo. pala lacks the cc to let the team take full advantage of locks dots.

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 08:24 PM

Well.. we tried Affli/Elem/Hpala, but our new pala absolutely INSISTS that I go Destro -_-

Q_Q What to do what to do..

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Posted 11 February 2010 - 09:31 PM

oogleboogle said:

Well.. we tried Affli/Elem/Hpala, but our new pala absolutely INSISTS that I go Destro -_-

Q_Q What to do what to do..

tell him to go fuck himself ofc :)




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