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#21 dubroya

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 08:52 PM

hey guys i only have two heals i rly need hur hur
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#22 fulhamxd

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:05 PM

blinding the bop? that was changed s1/s2
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#23 saska¨¨1296682067

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:08 PM

paladin has
no offensive utility pretty much
the healer that has to cast the most,
without sacred shield anything dies if you snezze on it

same thing could be written about priests in their terms of opness
dispels 2 magic effects defensively/offensively
pain supresion which cant be dispeled
ability to dispel immunity effects
ability to output immense pressure if left alone

priest teams require comps that has cc, and normally they can play gay as fuck pillaring around, play offensively from range and survive those 10-15 seconds of cds and collect points

as far as paladin healers go with their healing output they always were tank healers which obviously explain why they have the strongest heals etc
too bad paladin will be able to heal least if he is interupted
that holy shock that crits for 5k through mortal strike or notcrits for 3k doesnt stop anything from dieing
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#24 Zarlino

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:09 PM

blinding the bop? that was changed s1/s2


He said that BoP is often used to remove blind.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:09 PM

blinding the bop? that was changed s1/s2


Yea it was poison back then could be dispelled, then got changed to physical and now can be Bopped.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:10 PM

paladin has
no offensive utility pretty much
the healer that has to cast the most,
without sacred shield anything dies if you snezze on it

same thing could be written about priests in their terms of opness
dispels 2 magic effects defensively/offensively
pain supresion which cant be dispeled
ability to dispel immunity effects
ability to output immense pressure if left alone

priest teams require comps that has cc, and normally they can play gay as fuck pillaring around, play offensively from range and survive those 10-15 seconds of cds and collect points

as far as paladin healers go with their healing output they always were tank healers which obviously explain why they have the strongest heals etc
too bad paladin will be able to heal least if he is interupted
that holy shock that crits for 5k through mortal strike or notcrits for 3k doesnt stop anything from dieing


This.
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#27 Felic

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:13 PM

Hydra does not deserve a thread for each QQ he does on AJ. Good player, but does not mean he is more right. It is all comming from a Priest PoV, did not see him crying about any class that he plays with so far.

Stop it :-(
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#28 Scoopness

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:19 PM

Hydra does not deserve a thread for each QQ he does on AJ. Good player, but does not mean he is more right. It is all comming from a Priest PoV, did not see him crying about any class that he plays with so far.

Stop it :-(


hydra > you
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:27 PM

And ppl say i whine too much :D
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:27 PM

paladin has
no offensive utility pretty much
the healer that has to cast the most,
without sacred shield anything dies if you snezze on it

same thing could be written about priests in their terms of opness
dispels 2 magic effects defensively/offensively
pain supresion which cant be dispeled
ability to dispel immunity effects
ability to output immense pressure if left alone

priest teams require comps that has cc, and normally they can play gay as fuck pillaring around, play offensively from range and survive those 10-15 seconds of cds and collect points

as far as paladin healers go with their healing output they always were tank healers which obviously explain why they have the strongest heals etc
too bad paladin will be able to heal least if he is interupted
that holy shock that crits for 5k through mortal strike or notcrits for 3k doesnt stop anything from dieing


hi im a resto shaman, pretty sure you dont cast more than me, and sacred shield > earthshield, which i have to invest like 20 talent points into
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#31 saska¨¨1296682067

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:33 PM

hi im a resto shaman, pretty sure you dont cast more than me, and sacred shield > earthshield, which i have to invest like 20 talent points into


alright that must be true, your riptide and earth shield arent that bad though and earthbind totem+ghostwolf are also good
on the other hand
oh shit thats gonna be a 10k shatter on my warrior
nvm shock
your gonna sheep me?
nvm grounding totem

this isnt shaman/paladin topic though;)
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#32 Felic

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:35 PM

hi im a resto shaman, pretty sure you dont cast more than me, and sacred shield > earthshield, which i have to invest like 20 talent points into


So do we ;-) Else it only procs once each 30 sec.

I can see Rets needed that survivability nerf.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:38 PM

hi im a resto shaman, pretty sure you dont cast more than me, and sacred shield > earthshield, which i have to invest like 20 talent points into


That's what I was thinking when I read that, resto shaman cast everything except earth shield and riptide. Things get worse when you consider the fact that riptide is like half a holy shock with a HoT component that isn't even that strong.

I don't want to turn this into a shaman vs. paladin thread, because both classes have it bad when it comes to having to cast to get your heals off.

Hydra said some good things but he acts like aura mastery and divine sacrifice are free tickets to the freecasting show. You can still fear, spam sheep, gouge, etc even if a paladin has both active to interrupt him - and as soon as his six seconds of free casting are gone a mage can have his way with the paladin because he will eventually have to cast.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:44 PM

I like how random paladins who managed to achieve Glad in WOTLK mainly because the OP state of Holy Paladins hack down on his argument; you seem to have 0 knowledge of the game, which just proves Hydrás point as you were able to get glad.
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:45 PM

I don´t take anything coming from a priest/mage QQing about hunters or holypaladins seriously as long as they are not having massive QQ about how rogue 10k envenoms and 8k burst in 2seconds priest is not op.
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#36 dubroya

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:47 PM

I don´t take anything coming from a priest/mage QQing about hunters or holypaladins seriously as long as they are not having massive QQ about how rogue 10k envenoms and 8k burst in 2seconds priest is not op.


10000 envenom? Where is that?
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:47 PM

The point is the paladin class isn't necessarily op it just has an amazingly low skill cap atm which allows average players to perform nearly as well as some of the best at the class. Just because Hydra says something doesn't mean it's true. (I play a paladin, please don't down rate)
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#38 fraghack

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:48 PM

Yes paladins have 2 good defensive cooldowns for their team to take less damage and survive. Every other healing class has alot of offensive CC, I'd swap both sacs for cyclone, fear, hex etc

Just because they're a good defensive healer does not mean their overpowered and the bullshit about dispeling is unreliable? Priests have got 30% dispel resistance aswell so no idea what he's crying about. Any actual good team ive played against with an offensive dispeller will always get anything they need to off within the first 1/2 globals.
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#39 wayne024

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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:51 PM

lets all go back to making fun of walka imo
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Posted 26 January 2010 - 09:52 PM

you infidels have nothing to say when lord hydra speaks up, if he says paladins are op they are fucking op ok?
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