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#21 Rippd

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 12:34 AM

On the upside with death strike and that life draining proc you could probly live for a while in 1v1 lol
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#22 Ghazuk

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 12:35 AM

Oh so it does 400% more damage then SS and heals. ALLRIGHTYTHEN


you have to count ss and ss (shadow) its now splitted in recount so it would be around 13%, but yea over 200 ss against 151 weaponproccs ...
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#23 Another

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 01:05 AM

fucking joke just like this game
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#24 NeKrozZ

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 01:09 AM

I liked the mini map in the ss, what mod is that?



sexymap

its ill
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stop being slow


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#25 NeKrozZ

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 01:10 AM

fucking joke just like this game


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stop being slow


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#26 Sealcub

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 01:24 AM

For those of you watching at home, the PROC from this weapon did twice the damage of our main attack SS


I wish you wouldn't point out the obvious (not faulting you) because I had already forgotten how pathetic my class is, now I have to rage about Ghostcrawler again.

Ghostcrawler grow a brain you idiot.
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#27 Rippd

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 01:38 AM

I wish you wouldn't point out the obvious (not faulting you) because I had already forgotten how pathetic my class is, now I have to rage about Ghostcrawler again.

Ghostcrawler grow a brain you idiot.


Just wondering, how did he get to be lead designer? Was he with the company longer than the other designers, or did he have a good relationship with the C.E.O.s, or did they fire the old designer and select the new one by picking straws out of a hat?

One thing for certain, he wasn't picked based on his ability to balance this game. Anyone know:confused:
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#28 Stratos

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 01:43 AM

You people seem to think that GC single-handedly balances every class for every purpose. He is just the mouthpiece for a PvE focused team of mongaloids.

But given the vast difference in numbers between people that pvp vs pve maybe it just makes good business sense.
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#29 Rippd

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 01:48 AM

You people seem to think that GC single-handedly balances every class for every purpose. He is just the mouthpiece for a PvE focused team of mongaloids.

But given the vast difference in numbers between people that pvp vs pve maybe it just makes good business sense.


While it is true that he can't be blamed for all the bad decisions and that WoW does try to tailor more to PvE since it has the majority of players, GC has made some really retarded changes that broke PvP worse than anyone else. I can't think of any off the top of my head but I know they're there... somewhere... :rolleyes:
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#30 tafu

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 01:56 AM

GC was the mouthpiece via forums for this change and provided the illogical theory behind it's inception. GC also has the power to influence any design decision in the game. If he can't be blamed for it, no one should.
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#31 Hotted

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 02:02 AM

lol a fkin alt in our guild got it in our alt run...his name is Bolder...worst fkin DK ull ever see in your life pve/pvp wise
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#32 Macrospamftw

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 02:31 AM

For those of you watching at home, the PROC from this weapon did twice the damage of our main attack SS


im pretty sure that SS shows that not only is ScS not your main attack, but FF and DC are used far more often than any other strike, including PlS
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my 1300 resli shaman got nuked down by a rogue through roar of sac and masterscall over frost traps not to mention the discpriest spaming offensiveabilitys while i sat in blind/fear/dismantle/to fear again and when i was out double evasion cant touch rogue back into fear and well envom is worst than any war my shaman can heal through war damage but envom with discpriest = dead


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Posted 21 December 2009 - 02:37 AM

I think you all are looking at it the wrong way with the proc the most important thing about the proc is, *cough* hint hint GC its NOT DISEASE dependent *hint real problem with ss*.
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#34 Macrospamftw

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 02:41 AM

edit // heres the WoWhead theorycraft on it:

The theorycrafting on this potent weapon is still rather sparse, so I spent several hours testing the limits of the proc and it's dps contribution. First off, the basics:

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The 264 version proc has an average damage of 2250, while the 277 version has an average of 2538.
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The damage does not scale with any character stats (though the dps does, more on that below).
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The damage does scale with any percentage damage increases that affect spell damage, such as Avenging Wrath, Curse of Elements, Blood Presence, etc.
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The drain can proc off of any weapon attack, as well as some odd events such as applying or refreshing effects such as deathknight diseases or the paladin talent Righteous Vengeance. These odd events do have some requirements though. The drain can proc off of the refreshing of some DoTs or debuffs so long as the character is within melee range of and facing the target for the drain. Specific to the deathknight class, the drain can proc off of the disease application of Icy Touch (assuming you are in melee range), can double-proc off Plague Strike (the strike and the disease application), and on each target that is in melee range and in front of you from Pestilence.
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The drain has a base proc rate of 2 procs-per-minute, or 11.3333% chance per swing, and has no internal cooldown.
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The drain can proc multiple times per attack, provided there's are more than one weapon event for the attack. For example, the drain can multi-proc off the following:
- On any or all of the multiple targets of Cleave, Whirlwind, Divine Storm, Heart Strike, or Sweeping Strikes.
- From a melee (or special) and it's subsequent seal proc, Blood-Caked Blade proc, or Windfury proc.
- From both the physical and shadow portions of Scourge Strike.
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The drain can not proc from any spells, excluding the odd events mentioned above.
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The drain is incapable of critting and functions on the spell hit table. However, it doesn't seem to be resistible.

Now, with a 2 PPM baseline, the weapon will deal 2 procs a minute before any waste or special attacks or talents are factored in, giving it a minimum dps of 75. In practice, the proc will usually provide between 200 and 400 dps, depending on the character's haste rating, spec and rotation (and therefore number of procable attacks per second), spell hit chance, and +damage buffs present. A good estimate is that it will provide approximately 4-8% of a character's dps. For many classes, this means the proc is worth the equivalent of between 400 and 800 additional attack power, though it's place on the best-in-slot list is strongly dependent class, spec, haste rating, and rotation. In general is can be assumed to be near the top of the list, however, as the proc itself provides a fairly respectable amount of dps while also making it easier for the healers to keep you alive through miscellaneous raid damage.
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my 1300 resli shaman got nuked down by a rogue through roar of sac and masterscall over frost traps not to mention the discpriest spaming offensiveabilitys while i sat in blind/fear/dismantle/to fear again and when i was out double evasion cant touch rogue back into fear and well envom is worst than any war my shaman can heal through war damage but envom with discpriest = dead


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#35 Vrtra

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 04:28 AM

ah yep i just got a few hours ago, i have been bg'ing/dueling, and it makes me feel like the goddamn juggernaut
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#36 Chaospwn

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 04:30 AM

WTB, at least i'll feel like I still have my old scourge strike :P
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#37 Wibang

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 02:20 PM

ah yep i just got a few hours ago, i have been bg'ing/dueling, and it makes me feel like the goddamn juggernaut


gz, so you do now half the damage now that others do...half to go ;D
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#38 dkcarries

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 06:14 PM

scourge strike damage is fucking stupid. how the fuck is possible that PROC FROM THE WEAPON is almost #1 damage from a dk??!
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#39 dubroya

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 06:21 PM

Oh dear.: (
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#40 Vyoh

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Posted 21 December 2009 - 06:23 PM

I found the new best spec though guys in other news.

Arms. Just reroll now, it's not gonna get fucking better.
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