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#41 Xcoolxx

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 04:41 AM

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Dunno about you but when I'm on the ptr I don't bother changing the key binds.

And touche, do you think you can get a SS of you hitting plate? That would be nice.
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 05:01 AM

Scourge Strike hitting for 10k isn't going to stick.
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 05:04 AM

Dunno about you but when I'm on the ptr I don't bother changing the key binds.

And touche, do you think you can get a SS of you hitting plate? That would be nice.


Yea I would but there are no paladins in dalaran, and I can't duel people in durotar for test since apparently blizzard made DK premades without the quests done, so I get "can't do that while pacified".
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 05:27 AM

Here are some double crits I got on a ele sham in full relentless.

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and some more priest ones

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 06:18 AM

Lol 10k on priests, and maybe like 3k max on plate. Nice balance.
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 06:21 AM

How do you figure, Lauviah? It was 3k physical on the priest, 2k on the shaman. At minimum, it'll be like 1500 on the pally...and still 6-7k shadow.
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 06:53 AM

How do you figure, Lauviah? It was 3k physical on the priest, 2k on the shaman. At minimum, it'll be like 1500 on the pally...and still 6-7k shadow.


The shadow dmg scale with the phys dmg, so it will probably be 1500 phys 3k shadow.
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 07:01 AM

The shadow dmg scale with the phys dmg, so it will probably be 1500 phys 3k shadow.


Your guess was pretty close, anyway I found some paladin too test on.
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That's a holy paladin.


Here's one with a ret.

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Btw, these are all with a t1 weapon, on like 1100 resilience players lol.
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 09:34 AM

Supposing the shadow part have the same crit rate as the physical part (this is at best) witch is around 42% with talents, minus let's say 10% from resilience witch give us a 32% crit chance.
The double crit chance will be: 10.24%
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 09:45 AM

when the physical part crits the shadowpart also crits ?! (think ghostcrawler said it)
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 09:50 AM

Back? they never went anywhere :/


lol get some clue
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 10:06 AM

when the physical part crits the shadowpart also crits ?! (think ghostcrawler said it)


no, when the physical part crits the spell part does double damage, and that double damage can also crit. so to get these double crits its actually significantly lower than the chance to crit the single roll scourge strike on live
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 10:17 AM

no, when the physical part crits the spell part does double damage, and that double damage can also crit. so to get these double crits its actually significantly lower than the chance to crit the single roll scourge strike on live


That doesn't seem right...

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1328 White crit, that gets doubled to figure out the shadow. So if the shadow portion didn't crit it would have done approximately 2656. If what you're saying is right, the 1328 would double because how the talent works, then double again when the shadow portion is a critical strike?

The shadow crit was 3046, which is significantly closer to 2656 if it simply doubled based off the white crit instead of 5312 if it worked the way you describe.
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#54 Cooldown

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 10:20 AM

that isnt right at all, the shadow dmg isnt double the physical part, its 75% of the physical part (assuming you have all 3 diseases up) multiplied by all your dmg increasing buffs/talents
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 10:26 AM

For you non believers.

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a 4.2k crit then a 3.5k and 8k, did he have absorbs/shields on him ? or is it that random?

And the 3k crit on the pala is just awesome! just change the topics name lol
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 10:29 AM

a 4.2k crit then a 3.5k and 8k, did he have absorbs/shields on him ? or is it that random?

And the 3k crit on the pala is just awesome! just change the topics name lol


the physical part hit the first time, crit the second
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#57 Thyra3l

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 10:29 AM

All I can say after seeing this is that will be raping clothies and tickling plate.
Balance guys, this is it... -_-'
At least this is good against Wisard cleaves, for all us TSG addicts :D
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 10:43 AM

Some dk is claiming he got a 7,000 double crit on a protection paladin...


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Anyone else see how his first double crit was for like 4,000, then it was 7,000? Is that even possible without beserking?
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#59 Bambooshay

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Posted 30 October 2009 - 11:23 AM

Considering that all I fucking come across these days are skilled wizard cleave variants...I have no problem tickling plate if I can actually put out some burst on cloth.
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Posted 30 October 2009 - 11:27 AM

Really stupid design. Its ok to hit harder on Cloth since the whole point of having higher armor is to mitigate melee damage, but why would they make an ability that can doublecrit?

Its basically a worthless move against anything 14k+armor, your better off using IT+PS there, also because diseasecleansing destroys SS even more than on live because 50-70% of the damage will be done by the shadow part which is 100% done by diseases on the target.

Vs cloth it will do good damage IF it actually doublecrits. This wont happen very often because of resilence and the shadowportion critting of spellcrit. Most of the time you still cant drop anything <80% alone, and then after 5min of nonstop hitting it SS will doublecrit 2 times in a row and the target is dead.

Really, nice design ~.~


Also i think something is bugged. The double dipping seems to behave rather odd in pve on PTR. Most of the time with no crits or single crits you dont see any numbers higher than 6K. Then SS doublecrits and like 6K 20K pops up.
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