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#21 Xonkk

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:40 PM

if you think the human racial is comparable to WOTF, you're delusional.

Extra cc break versus slightly better stats

Why do people even argue this? Are they that butthurt?
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#22 Sharor

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 05:42 PM

If you don't like it, you can always faction change to Human

damn that felt good


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#23 Youdienow

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 06:01 PM

if you think the human racial is comparable to WOTF, you're delusional.

Extra cc break versus slightly better stats

Why do people even argue this? Are they that butthurt?


thing is, most get slightly better stats.... some gets extremely much better stats.

still confusing why blizzard are too retarded to fix racial imbalance in pvp... it takes like months and months for all these small insignificant bandaid fixes, they couldve removed racials from arena like 2 years ago and game would be so much better.. but oh no too many retards working at blizzard. wheres a suicide bomber when you need one
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#24 Bearz

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 06:02 PM

If you don't like it, you can always faction change to Human

damn that felt good


im going human
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#25 Shouri

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 07:22 PM

how is new undead significantly worse than current human?

be happy you didnt get nerfed to near uselessness a la dwarf, and leave good enough alone.


Dwarf useless? I'd much rather be dwarf than human in rmp mirrors or against rogues in general.
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#26 Calx

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 09:08 PM

lol 'slightly better stats'

idiot
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Posted 28 October 2009 - 10:09 PM

Dwarf useless? I'd much rather be dwarf than human in rmp mirrors or against rogues in general.


yup

other rogue = kidney'd

stoneform crippling, you're peeled
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#28 Zexis

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 10:15 PM

you dont dispel it instantly? its only a nerf for bad players, good ones will have it off before bursting


You're a fucking retard, you don't kill a paladin in one burst in twos. He just applies it whenever he's out of CC, and it resists dispel 3x.
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I beat dan's LSD (lol you claim its an op comp)


he's saying if it was an OP comp Dan should have beat him you fucking retard



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#29 Kajn

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 10:43 PM

the problem with the change is really obvious.

there's really only a 30 second window that the racial can be used effectively.

ie.

-player A trinkets
-45-75 seconds later player A can WotF without cutting into their medallion cooldown
-if player A WotF after the 75 second mark you cut into being vunerable from a cc (sheep/blind/kidney etc) by X seconds where X is the time WotF is used after 75 seconds post-trinket use.

very poorly designed change. i still believe all racials should be removed. they'll never be balanced.

period.
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#30 Fierss

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:21 PM

thing is, most get slightly better stats.... some gets extremely much better stats.


98% of the time, the human racial could be a battlemaster instead of a CC break, and people would end up with the exact same stats, only using a pvp trinket instead of a battlemaster.


If there was a trinket that gave me WotF and 150 SP, with a 45 sec lockout on the pvp trinket CD, almost every human would use it in their 2nd slot, because of how amazing that would be. And that's the difference between the new wotf and the human racial.
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#31 Konfu

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:48 PM

Human racial is always overpowered, wotf was overpowered vs only 3-4 setups.

If you think that the human racial is fine, then learn to PuG or find a half-decent raiding guild...
Saying "I'm a slacker and don't want to min-max my char" does not make it ballanced.

190 ap vs 288ap + 510str proc with a 45 sec cooldown
111 sp vs 168sp + 144mp5 constantly

This is the human racial, for anyone that can be bothered to get it.

Yeah, sure, it's OK, I'm sure you would swap it for wotf for that war/dk(/ret)/dru melee cleave?
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#32 allana

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:53 PM

look at your own signature and realise that will of the forsaken was nerfed because you all keep trransferring to horde. don't whine about it, just accept that it's overpowered and let it slide.
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#33 Konfu

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Posted 28 October 2009 - 11:58 PM

Sure it was. I know it was nerfed because too many transfered to horde. I don't think that I have acualy complained about the nerf itself, even tho the way it was nerfed sucks.

But now it's nerf I can complaint about other racials being OP without being a hypocrite.

And as I said: it's NOT about the racial as it is, it's about PvE trinkiets working in PvP, and PvP trinkiets having 1 slot 2 tiers lower then PvE.

The racial would be fine if not for the retarded trinkiets.
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#34 Fierss

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 02:18 AM

Human racial is always overpowered, wotf was overpowered vs only 3-4 setups.


By 3-4 setups, you mean 3 classes, and 95% of setups. Human is still worse than new wotf, stop your crying.

You could potentially complain about human if not for the fact that yours will still be better.
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#35 Mackabre

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 02:22 AM

Human is still worse than new wotf, stop your crying.

You could potentially complain about human if not for the fact that yours will still be better.


You really think so? It may just be me, but wotf has been made a liability. I'd rather be able to use solace and BM trinket.
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#36 Fierss

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 02:29 AM

I love my solace, but mp5 is useful in a lot less fights than a spare trinket, even with strings attached.
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#37 Invaderzz

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 02:35 AM

jesus your retarded if you think human racial is overpowered


Double Reign
Double Solace
Double Death's Verdict

How is that not op? I really want to know
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#38 Granter

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 02:38 AM

Double Reign
Double Solace
Double Death's Verdict

How is that not op? I really want to know


it aint OP!

it's just alote better then all the other racials:rolleyes:
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#39 Fierss

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Posted 29 October 2009 - 02:39 AM

Double Reign
Double Solace
Double Death's Verdict

How is that not op? I really want to know


It would be. But 1 + a spare trinket's at least comparable. And how many people have both? 1/1000 humans over 2.1k?
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Posted 29 October 2009 - 02:40 AM

This thread filled me with /facepalms.
Making me feel depressed over how closeminded some people on these forums are.
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