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#1 Ascend

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 11:08 AM

anything? they're just zerging my priest, after 15 seconds he needs a BoP, then he eventually dies

he has over 1,000 resilience

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 11:15 AM

Make sure your priest is using his instants OFC, dispelling kings or might helps somewhat.  
Getting freedoms to triple fear their team. With a HoJ this can blow CDs.
Letting diseases stay on you to bounce ProM.
If he starts to mana burn when high on health the DK will almost always interrupt it.  Then he's free to heal away.

Our warrior can really do w/e he wants, but usually he'll start by tunneling the DK until he swaps to frost. Then he'll go on the warrior till damage overwhelms them all the while using cleave and sweeping strikes to spread damage.

Double healer is a pretty strong counter to TSG in my experience so he could be doing something pretty wrong.
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Posted 16 October 2009 - 08:18 PM

Based on my experience as someone who's been running TSG, if your priest needs a BoP in "15 seconds", that can mean several things :

1) your priest is seriously undergeared, as in he's only stacked resil at cost of every other stat

2) Your paladin is undergeared

3) You're not putting enough pressure on dk to make him go frost presence or you're not doing everything to peel / mitigate the damage.  Are you using thunderclap / demo shout on your free GCD?  Are you disarming at the clutch interval?  Are you making sure one of the DPS is snared at all times?.  These are the questions you should ask.

4) Your priest / paladin aren't doing everything to keep themselves up.  A lot of times, I see bad priests failing to refresh shield / mending / renew / innerfire when they're up.  Moreover, they need to be able to either juke pummel / overpower and get in that flash heal or penance from time to time.  

I cant see your armory profile and cant really comment on more substantial than the above questions.  I hope this helps.

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 12:06 AM

my preist and paladin have 3/5 deadly and we're in the 2300s :(

should we be playing offensively with mana burns? or just healing through damage waiting for the paladin to oom?

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 12:23 AM

Ascend said:

my preist and paladin have 3/5 deadly and we're in the 2300s :(

should we be playing offensively with mana burns? or just healing through damage waiting for the paladin to oom?

you shouldn't be able to go much further with that gear. once you DO get the gear you will go further.

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 12:33 AM

ok so, mana burn when you need not heal yourself (priest)
the more gear we get the less we'll need to heal = the more mana burns
:( damn going to have to wait a few weeks then I guess

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:13 AM

WTB bop for my 3's

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 11:07 AM

I havnt been paying attention. What the hell is TSG?
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 11:09 AM

Hpaladin warrior DK

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 11:13 AM

i play Rshaman PhPala war and i can say that TSG deal 1k dps (x2) at average on my shaman...
even when hes running in ghostwolf w/ earthbind down most of the time
although we dont have any problem with them

freedom war, 1-3 purges, 1 stun and 1 silence -> their paladin has to bubble.. or die

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 11:17 AM

if the war is on the dk and priest has freedom and is dispelling opponents freedoms and ur shouting the priest should have an entire freedom to just run away so i cant see u needing a bop right away like that. other then that i dont play gay noskillcleave or double healer so i duno what its like to faceroll and prob cant give u good advice

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 03:47 AM

adanan said:

if the war is on the dk and priest has freedom and is dispelling opponents freedoms and ur shouting the priest should have an entire freedom to just run away so i cant see u needing a bop right away like that. other then that i dont play gay noskillcleave or double healer so i duno what its like to faceroll and prob cant give u good advice

true that, if you play double healer you got that high ratin by using no skill so when you get nerfed and need some skill you'll go back to a challenger, but for now happy face rolling.

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 04:48 AM

Question:so your points being?

Answer: irrelevant

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 05:39 AM

Ascend said:

my preist and paladin have 3/5 deadly and we're in the 2300s :(

should we be playing offensively with mana burns? or just healing through damage waiting for the paladin to oom?

Nice this moron is on my alts bg;  can't wait to farm him

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Posted 23 October 2009 - 01:50 PM

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Nice this moron is on my alts bg;  can't wait to farm him

so he's higher rated than your main?
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Posted 23 October 2009 - 04:45 PM

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