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#41 Darksoldierr

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 12:24 PM

i think, i saw him writing first 12k
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Posted 17 October 2009 - 02:28 PM

there is absolutely no reason to nerf lavaburst as long as other classes are able to do the same.
apparently blizzard is fine with one monster nuke for one class.
warlocks get nerfed because they have two different abilities that are somehow both the two highest critting abilities ingame.

seriously, as long as warrior dmg is considered 'ok' there is no reason to nerf lavaburst.
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#43 Lolflay

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 02:39 PM

quit the game

sucks anywayz

ele/destru is so faceroll nowadays 2buttons dead in 2 globals...


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#44 blackfoot

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 03:13 PM

Lavaburst does indeed hit hard, but like Ventura said, other classes are able to do the same.

Any nerfs to our burst dmg need to come with buffs to other areas of our class such as dmg deliverability or survivability or cc.
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#45 Blowi

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 08:59 PM

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#46 Cuddlybunnyz

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 09:09 PM

other classes being over the top is not justification for lava burst being over the top
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Posted 17 October 2009 - 11:41 PM

there is absolutely no reason to nerf lavaburst as long as other classes are able to do the same.


The problem with this logic is the fact that you put both specs that do this on the same team, both with CC not on DR with each other's and 13% spell damage debuff, you then have a team that does long CD type burst damage without the long CD...
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#48 Mackabre

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 12:44 AM

other classes being over the top is not justification for lava burst being over the top


This. They are going in the right direction with the Lock nerfs. But without Ele. shammy, warrior, feral druids nerfs too, it's a pretty weak change in the next patch.
Now mages getting a buff is the weirdest thing of all. :confused:
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Posted 18 October 2009 - 01:23 AM

Blowi is a fucking wanker!
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Posted 18 October 2009 - 01:37 AM

Hey if BC is so much better then wotlk, then I guess ele shams would have no problem being an almost useless class just like how they were IN THE GOOD OLD DAYS and same with a ton of other specs. Honestly, the game is way better for you guys and made almost every spec viable now as in BC only 1/3 of the specs were viable.
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Posted 18 October 2009 - 04:48 AM

Whose damage is fine right now? Spriests? Getting 3.3 damage buffs. Mages? Same.
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#52 Cuddlybunnyz

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 05:01 PM

if you couldn't get glad in BC, but magically were able to start getting it in wrath, is it a matter of class imbalance or a matter of gameplay becoming easier and more accessible to players? I'm of the opinion that the latter is how it is, but people who found it way too difficult to be successful in BC like to use the arguments like the priest above
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#53 EMCL

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 05:31 PM

if you couldn't get glad in BC, but magically were able to start getting it in wrath, is it a matter of class imbalance or a matter of gameplay becoming easier and more accessible to players? I'm of the opinion that the latter is how it is, but people who found it way too difficult to be successful in BC like to use the arguments like the priest above


Class imbalance


I got gladiator in all 3 brackets (including 2s) s2-s4 as ele sham, but to be honest there were maybe 4 other people in the world that wanted to queue dodge that much to achieve those ratings in any of the brackets.

Ele shaman in BC had severe problems, many of which are fixed now.

If Lava burst crit as hard as lightning bolt crits I do not think we would see our role change dramatically, we would still quite easily be able to perform what we need to.

Yet I also dont see this as a problem holding only to elemental shaman. If they were to reduce LVB, then they must reduce burst abilities across the entire board, ranging from DK - Destro warlock.

The only specs that perhaps shouldn't be toned down are Spriests and Boomkin. As well as obvious DoT specs.
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#54 Ioveme

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 05:37 PM

Why the fuk do people still insist DKs have good burst? :?

Its clearly not hard to see. (before any1 talks about blood spec) unholy is only viable.
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#55 Ameriss

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 05:40 PM

this is a thread about shamans in the shaman forums.
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Posted 18 October 2009 - 08:34 PM

its OP w/e way you try to twist n turn it.

without bonus it crits for what ? 6k easily on descent resi target and
8k+ on people that use a fair amoutn of pve gear.

the setbonus is beyond retarted. i managed to get mine this week and..to put it like this

"16-18k hp without any hots / shield /whatever = execute range"

edit: i just realised that even when you have a couple of blooms / revuj / renew or FoL hot(s) rolling..it still wont save you

im not a big fan of the lets reduce the dmg and put a dot after it...
do i know how to fix it besides just nerfing the dmg..Not a clue.
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Posted 18 October 2009 - 10:48 PM

The only specs that perhaps shouldn't be toned down are Spriests and Boomkin. As well as obvious DoT specs.


disagree,even dot specs do ridiculous damage (if thye get a setup)
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Posted 18 October 2009 - 11:03 PM

lol ele shaman seem to be fine. We were playign 5s and i just ran into a team screaming "KILLING MAGE BEFORE BLOCK" and hey guess what, it happened with 11k lvb, 7k em lb, trinket proc crit 2.8
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 12:33 AM

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someone attempt to justify that please
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 12:40 AM

tell vexo to use cloak god what a bad rogue
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